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1881 S Morgan

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I have two 1881 s Morgan dollars. One has a larger mm than the other. It is very noticeable. I am not very good at taking pics yet. Is there a variety for this larger mm or does the large mintage come into consideration for this. I have not seen any info on this. I think my wife is getting me the VAM encyclopedia for christmas, hopefully Ill learn alot.
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 Posted 12/23/2006  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome to the forum newdavid. I've heard that there is such a variety but just wait for Gary and Morgan Man. They're the morgan pros.

OOps!! I meant Morgan Man, Silver Dollar and SuperDave!!h
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thank you for the reply and welcome. I am very gald to be here.
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I have never seen one that you can tell by looking at them and see a difference, they shouldn't be that far off, are there anyway you can post some pictures
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I cant say I now anything about Morgan Vams but I do know through out most american coinage thera are LArge and small, and somtimes medium mint marks as well as differnt Serriffs and of course placments of the mint marks. Al to often up till the Not to long ago All Mint Marks were hand Done on alot of US coinage I do believe
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not in this case, the only mm that is small is the 1921-S, I have heard of micro O's but never a micro S except like I said on the 1921-S Morgans. My guess without seeing pictures is that its a forgery. Here is a 81-S and a 21-S you should be able to tell the difference

1881-S-Morgan

1881-S-Morgan
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Okay so Morgans Are different Hummm , Thanks for the education Bryan1315 and Didn't They recenetly denounce the Micro- O , Now considered A Forgery which went undetected for so long
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nope, they denounced a couple of the dates but PCGS still attributes 1899 micro O, I made a mistake also there is a Micro S other than 1921 but its a 1903
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Although it isn't noted in the Encyclopedia, I've seen a couple of different mintmark sizes on the 1881-S's. One was rather tall slender, one sort of short and fat. Placement also varies. When you consider that the mintmarks were engraved by hand and then hand-punched into individual dies, it's easy to understand how there would be some variance. Especially with the 1881's, which had both the largest number of individual dies produced, 200, and the largest single mintage of San Francisco Morgans (excepting 1921, of course), almost 13 million.

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I guess I took it when he said "Very noticeable" that he was talking about a micro S. I have also seen some s/s and some S's that were slightly different but wasn't noticeable by just glancing at the coin like I took it he was talking about, but yet again I guess I was jumping to conclusions without having all the information needed to come to a conclusion (seems to be a rising trend with me), soon I am going to be one of these people that just say "Hello" every now and then and never answer anything from fear of making a mistake
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quote:
Originally posted by Bryan1315

I guess I took it when he said "Very noticeable" that he was talking about a micro S. I have also seen some s/s and some S's that were slightly different but wasn't noticeable by just glancing at the coin like I took it he was talking about, but yet again I guess I was jumping to conclusions without having all the information needed to come to a conclusion (seems to be a rising trend with me), soon I am going to be one of these people that just say "Hello" every now and then and never answer anything from fear of making a mistake



Nonsense. One of the beauties of being human is that you get to publicly embarrass yourself every once in a while. I don't consider it a good week unless I overreach myself at least once during it, because that's how you learn.
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What I meant by very noticable is I saw the difference w/o glass. I then sowed some family members who do not collect. I just asked if they notice anything different. They all noticed one was larger. Ill try and post some pics later. I am suppose to be cleaning for christmas right now. My wife would kill me if she knew I wasnt. Uh Oh gotta go.
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THE COIN IN QUESTION IS AN 1880 NOT 1881.I took what I thought would be great pics with my tripod, sunlight, and other factors and I cant find my data cable. So I took some pics with a QX3.http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/...dolsen/s.jpghttp://i140.photobucket.com/albums/...n/larges.jpg
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There are two known and identified mintmark sizes for the 1880-S, both common.
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Thank you SuperDave
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