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1810 Capped Bust Half Dollar - Star Error

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 Posted 12/24/2006  02:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Chris9055 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am wondering if anybody can give me any information on a coin that was recently found in a collection. It is an 1810 capped bust half dollar Dollar, where the bottom left side star has a large point that extends to the edge of the coin. The star above that has a point that extends down and somewhat curves to meet the first star. The coin is of VF quality. I cannot find any other reference of this type of die variety or error with this type of coin. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 12/24/2006  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, Chris9055. Nice to have you here.

Bust Halfs are known to have star points which extend to the rim, if a couple examples from my little stash indicate what you're talking about:

1810-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar---Star-Error

1810-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar---Star-Error

Now, the second feature you describe, the point which curves to meet the first star, is quite interesting and not known to me. I'm admittedly a rookie with this issue, though, so I'll do a little research and defer to a couple of more knowledgeable members we have here.

Oh, Bonedigger? Paging Bonedigger.....if he doesn't see this thread in a day or two I'll email him.

Can you possibly image the feature you're describing, and post it here?
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 Posted 12/24/2006  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Chris !!!

Sounds to me like an 1810 O-101a variety, but I couldn't tell with absolute certainty without seeing a good high resolution photo of both sides of the coin. If I'm right, there should be die cracks near the bottoms of the four stars at the top-left (there would be many other die cracks, but these should be noticeable). If you can post photos, we could be more helpful.
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 Posted 12/25/2006  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pattiewhack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you can't get a pic up by yourself, email it to Susan or Bobby (Forum Mom and Dad respectively) or one of the mods and they will be able o assist you. I myself have never been very good with getting photos up...
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 Posted 12/26/2006  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chris9055 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for the responses. I will try to get a pic posted tonight, I have had some trouble getting a good pic of the coin that shows detail, but I did manage to get a good detailed pic of stars that I am curious about from my 10x scope. I will post those tonight.
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 Posted 12/27/2006  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chris9055 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a couple pics of the coin,let me know what you all think. Thanks again for all your comments, me being a Morgan collector, these are from my grandfathers collection, are all new to me.



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Image: 1810-Capped-Bust-Half-Dollar---Star-Error 1810 Capped Bust_1_1_1.jpg
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I know exactly how you feel, I am a Morgan collector also and right now I am trying to put a Dansco 7070 together and I feel like a really small fish in a very huge lake. I don't know a thing about these bust coins but we do have a few here that do including the forum MOM so I will be checking it frequently to see what has been said so maybe we both can learn a little something here. Thanks for sharing
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 Posted 12/27/2006  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos confirm that it is the O-101a variety. Looks like it's in great condition, too.
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Thanks for the confirmation. How do you identify the type? Is there a book or a reference for this type of coin that you know of?
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 Posted 12/28/2006  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by AuldFartte

The photos confirm that it is the O-101a variety. Looks like it's in great condition, too.



I wouldn't of known that except, for your decsription, and therfore After seeing the photo I would have to agree. Good Job AuldFartte
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 Posted 12/28/2006  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Chris9055

Thanks for the confirmation. How do you identify the type? Is there a book or a reference for this type of coin that you know of?



There is an excellent reference for identifying these. It's called "Early Half Dollar Die Varieties 1794 - 1836" by Al Overton (that's where the "O" numbers come from). If you're interested in getting one, I'd strongly suggest that you wait until you can get a copy of the Third Edition. The Fourth Edition is currently available, but there are a bunch of errors in the new edition.

Thanks Scoutjim99
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 Posted 12/28/2006  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ScoutJim:
I saw your note about the errors in the 4th edition.
So that I can notate them, what are they, do do you have a reference to them?
Also, the 3rd edition's photos (and paper) are far superior.
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