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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
Hello everyone, I hope I was right in reporting this as a fraud on ebay, but I'd feel better if share your thoughts. I won't post the link because my last thread with an ebay link was deleted:    Gilboy lists this "normal N" variant as rare. I've got serious doubts about it. Please comment! |
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Valued Member
 United States
115 Posts |
One additional clue: this seller also has a Portuguese counterstamped 8R! These are definitely FOTM in the counterfeit world right now!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1962 Posts |
Yup, fake. Not particularly convincing.
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Pillar of the Community
Czech Republic
803 Posts |
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Valued Member
Philippines
386 Posts |
Yes, definitely you are correct to report that fake 8R.
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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
Yet another clue: a private auction. Unfortunately it's already been bid up to almost $40 by three bids. Please report it, too!
I suppose in some ways it is flattering to see so many fake "dos mundos" coins, but moreover it is really sad that people are using this timeless design to attract and dupe those who are not in an educated position. At least for the somewhat more common dos mundos (those within the grasp of the casual collector), it probably reduces prices and demand for the real coins somewhat. I believe the numismatic forgeries are bad for everybody, the serious collector included.
Would someone please estimate the current market value of a genuine VF/XF 1755 Guatemala 8R with average strike and eye appeal and original or lightly cleaned surfaces? The real McCoy is certainly a very desirable thing and stunning to behold.
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Pillar of the Community
France
1591 Posts |
There are so many fakes appearing since two weeks - I stopped reporting ... Sometime they get removed, other times I get a message telling that they were sent to the watch groups and I then have no news. Is anyone from the world forum here in the coin community watch group ? I posted some hard to see fake ones - and someone specialized in US coins (or not specialized in those) won't be helpful to discard these fakes ... |
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Valued Member
United States
326 Posts |
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Pillar of the Community
France
1591 Posts |
The issue is that they are too many fake reales - and they are becoming better and better. And before being counterfeit, there is also many different kinds and ancient fakes which are collectable ... it's not an easy issue. I with there would be a rating on ebay, (or + / - ... or whatever they like) - in order to give visible opinion about items on sale (maybe available to selected members, or those with enough ratings in a particular section corresponding to the item they want to rate). |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
651 Posts |
take a look on coinforgeryebay on flickr
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Pillar of the Community
France
1591 Posts |
Cool, I was looking for this address to submit my last fake one ! Thanks :)
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Valued Member
Germany
194 Posts |
Since I have posted the Mexico Pillar Dollar with Portuguese counterstamp a few days ago, I have found basically a DATE RUN of early Pillar 8R of Mexico on German ebay. They sell between 2 (yes, two) and 100 euro (no kidding!). |
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
648 Posts |
Thank You realeswatcher
From that site found this slab. I believe the slab would fit my collection nicely [eBayItem]250919257428[/eBayItem]
don't know about coin. collect the slab as some say =)
edit for info
Edited by tokenmast
10/31/2011 09:32 am
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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
Many bids now and price pushing $100--please report it!
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United States
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Posted 10/28/2011 8:41 pm
