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1776 8 Reale?

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 Posted 10/29/2011  10:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NomadA32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Going through some of my grandfathers boxes and this coin was in there it took a while for me to figure out what it was. With the two holes that are in it I know it was ruined, local coin guy believes it is real.Any help would be great.

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 Posted 10/29/2011  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi NomadA32,

I'm not sure what help you would like with the coin, but I can say that it appears to be a 1776 Bolivia 2 reales minted in Potosi. It bears the bust of Charles III, King of Spain. Many coins of this period were holed in order to keep track of them, however these holes are unusual--perhaps it was part of a piece of jewelry. I don't think 1776 is a particularly rare date for this coin, so in in this condition it is worth $10 -$20 at most.
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 Posted 10/29/2011  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NomadA32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
rexvictor thanks for the help I was completely lost on this as it was very difficult to make anything out
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 Posted 10/30/2011  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fcrazo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
by the looks of the coin and the amount of even wear, it's a real 2 Reales. too bad for the holes. worth just the silver though.
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 Posted 10/30/2011  06:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Placement of the holes makes me think it was used as a button , what do you all think?
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 Posted 10/30/2011  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Larryh86GT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does look like a button. Pretty cool coin.
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I have seen lots of 2 reales with holes like this, you are correct John1, they are used as buttons, often to close the top of a cloth shoulder bag (kind of like a purse but everyone carries them in rural South and Central America). Of course in this condition as a coin it is worth silver value but if you plan on making a shoulder bag...you already have the button.
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 Posted 10/30/2011  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyalBaber to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. You should definitely keep this coin, NomadA32. Cool conversation piece.






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 Posted 10/30/2011  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone who is capably familiar with Kleeberg types and such think there's a possibility this could be a contemporary forgery?
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 Posted 10/31/2011  01:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know nothing about Kleeberg types, but the only thing I think is curious about this coin is the appearance of the D in "DEI." I'm not sure there's enough of the coin left to make a final determination, but I wouldn't suspect that it is fake.
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The coin does not appear to be a Kleeberg type and I do not suspect a forgery - but there is a new edition in the works that should be checked after publication.

The coin is definitely a button. Real coins were used primarily in the early 1800's as suggested for large fasteners. They were also used for saddle decorations etc. as an indication of the wealth of the owner. The practice of using counterfeit coins or coin like discs of metal developed later in the century under French influence. Many of the plated one sided buttons were manufactured in Lyon, France in the 1860's.

The age of the original coin here suggests use possibly during the Mexican Revolution or even the Texas war. Perhaps a US expatriate living in Texas in 1836 chose the date 1776 with a specific nod to history.

All in all - worth MUCH more as an historic item than as a coin. Great find.
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