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Does My Bust Half Look Legit?

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I picked this one up a month or so ago for my 7070 in a lot that went for a few dollars above melt. I was the only bidder which always seems to scare people (including myself) as to what did I miss here.

It has a slightly different ring to it than the Barber half did when bouncing it off my desk (I know, not the best way to test silver coins) but not like the cast copy SLQ's I got from china did comapred to the real SLQ. I am guessing the slightly larger diameter and weight difference is why it sounded a little different.

The edge lettering is a little off center wise between the reeding but doing a little researchonline there seems to be at least 20 different variations of wording and spacing on the edges of these coins.

Any opinions?

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 Posted 10/30/2011  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing is throwing red flags up with me. Appears to have AU Details/damaged/cleaned.
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, too bad for the damage, that half has a lot nice detail...
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That half dollar looks a bit off to me. Compare it to this image of the same year.

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Looks legit...weak motto on reverse is common...good grab at melt!
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 Posted 10/30/2011  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are there verified examples where the 8 in the date is sitting so high up compared to the other numbers?
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Are there verified examples where the 8 in the date is sitting so high up compared to the other numbers?


I see what you mean. Most of the slabbed coins have a lower date startng with the 8 except this ANANC coin.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1832-CAPPED...em19c4811dfa

Most raw coins look like mine positinionwise like these.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1832-Capped...em19ca04b391

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1832-Capped...em20be19457e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1832-BUST-H...em3a6bda6ed9
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 Posted 10/30/2011  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rexvictor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately I think it is a counterfeit. Compare the talons and leaves with certified coins and there's a big difference. Also the lines that define the "LIBERTY" band on the cap look crude. Please let us know the weight.
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 Posted 10/30/2011  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin appears to be genuine, but badly damaged.
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I guess that there would have been minor die variations with most coins of this vintage, which makes verification of genuine coins more difficult.

I was successful in an auction for a Bust Half two years ago. I sent the coin back within the approval period, because the relief did not appear to be high enough.

I am still in the market for a good Bust Half in VF or better.
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 Posted 10/31/2011  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think that coin looks like it's silver at all. The burning question is....what's the weight. That will tell the tale. From outward appearance of the surfaces and color, I'm skeptical....and you guys know my glass is always half full.

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That's why I posted that image and mentioned it because I think it's fake. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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It appears genuine to me. As stated before, weigh it to know for sure. If the weight is pretty close, I'm pretty sure it's real.
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It looks genuine to me.

There are 23 different varieties in 1832 and a couple of then have the 8 appearing to be high. I think this is Rev F which comes on O-107 and 109. On 107 the 8 is not high but it is on 109. (Overton actually says the 3 is slightly lower than the 8 ans 2) A quick attribution check looks like this could be an O-109 which is a shame because it is an R-5 coin (31 to 75 pieces estimated to exist)
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This half looks highly suspect to this oldtimer. The surfaces on the devices appear to match those in the field - micro granularity - this, unless the lighting is contributing? What's the weight? I doubt that the damage would lessen the weight substantially. Does it have a sustained ring to it when balanced upon a fingertip and struck with another coin? Compare the ring to that of another silver half.
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I see nothing suspicious about it. A holed and plugged coin will indeed have a different ring to it and the die wear characteristics are typical of a coin from that period struck in an open collar screw press.
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