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 Posted 12/28/2006  6:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well, I may have taken a beating on this one, but you live and learn I guess. What do the Morgan experts think? With photograde next to me I would say maybe EF . I don't think it is AU, but I really haven't had enough exposure to these to be sure. Sorry, no macro photo on this one. I will take more later tonight.



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 Posted 12/28/2006  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ty,
I think you have a combination of a somewhat weak strike and light wear. Most of the 97-O's were poorly struck and the luster was poor on the majority also.This is a tough one as I see very little sign of bag or circulation marks.No major rim dings either,that I can see in the photo.I can still see some detail in the cotton bolls.I'm going to stick my neck out and say its in the AU range and a weak strike.

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While I agree that this is a week strike with some wear, I would still expect to see a bit more detail on the eagle breast (perhaps its there but not in the photo) for it to be an AU. Also, the wear on Liberty's hair still seem a bit much even if a weak strike is accounted for. It is definitely a strong XF though.
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I'd call it EF45. New Orleans coins are difficult to grade because so many of them have strike issues. I don't think that this one would quite make it to AU, but it could be possible. I couldn't make that fine of a judgement on this coin without having it in-hand.
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quote:
Originally posted by Susanlynn9

I'd call it EF45. New Orleans coins are difficult to grade because so many of them have strike issues. I don't think that this one would quite make it to AU, but it could be possible. I couldn't make that fine of a judgement on this coin without having it in-hand.



I note that the talons are flat, as is the rear lobe of the ear, signs of a weak strike which don't normally wear so quickly. Also of note is the detail still showing in the leaves and bolls on the obverse, which *should* be showing more wear than they are for VF-EF.

I might be more inclined than Susan to call this coin AU, but agree completely that the photographic detail isn't quite sufficient to be sure.
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 Posted 12/30/2006  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some macros. Still not the greatest. Now that I look at these closer pics, I can't figure out what's on her cheek?

Maybe I'm just seeing things, but it looks like some kind of "shelf"......Plus, I'm still not sold on it being AU, regardless of how much I'd like it to be. Even if it's a very low AU I'd be happy



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I still think AU50.I think what you seeing on the cheek is possible a stain mark.Heres one graded AU50 for you to compare to.

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From the picture, I would guess AU.
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 Posted 12/31/2006  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all. I paid more than EF value, but a lot less than AU condition, so if it is even close to AU, I made out ok. Not easy to find deals on a somewhat key date coin.
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quote:
Originally posted by tights24

Thanks all. I paid more than EF value, but a lot less than AU condition, so if it is even close to AU, I made out ok. Not easy to find deals on a somewhat key date coin.


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