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New Zacatecas Cap'n'ray.

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 Posted 11/21/2011  10:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Stepped out of my primary collecting focus to snatch this off ebay. It's a Type I (pre-1842 die, medal alignment) in a nice XF condition with some colorful crust on it :) Just how I like them! Weight is on the heavy side - 27.04 grams. Properly edged. Nothing that would make me suspect foul play.

Would love to hear your thoughts.

New-Zacatecas-Cap'n'ray. New-Zacatecas-Cap'n'ray.

It makes a nice addition to the one I already own. If you notice, both coins are exhibiting the reverse die cracks: at the 6 o'clock that runs up to the bottom pad and from the top of the right wing through the "E" in "MEXICANA".

New-Zacatecas-Cap'n'ray. New-Zacatecas-Cap'n'ray.

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11/21/2011 11:55 pm
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 Posted 11/22/2011  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, it's beautiful :) I'm still looking for a nice one ... (and didn't saw this one - hopefully, I don't want to bid against someone here :D)
Your die crack is indeed interesting and very visible :)
I noticed the design of the zacatecas mint evolved in its early years - I now understand more and more how those are interesting to collect !
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 Posted 11/23/2011  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealPeso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice Zacatecas piece!

This style of eagle is definitely one of my favourites

I also saw this on ebay and wondered why the seller listed it as "off center"?

I don't see anything that is off center.
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 Posted 11/23/2011  01:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think "off-center" is what someone someone not particularly well-versed might come up with when seeing the typical early Zacatecas piece...

Kopeiki, having seen your taste for original tone... If you're going to go down the crusty Cap & Rays road - particularly Zacatecas - I wonder if you shouldn't find yourself a piece from the the Meridien hotel hoard of New Orleans, 1982 (if doing online searches, this is chronically misspelled "Le MeridiAn"). This find is mainly known for the Seated Liberty quarters it produced (1840 and 41, O-mint as you'd expect), but a quantity of Cap & Rays 8R (esp. Zacatecas), plus some earlier colonial 2R were found. Many of these actually are a bit TOO crusty and would be called "Environmental Damage", but they generally have a deep tone with color mixed in - many are pretty pieces. A few examples:

This piece has been on the Bay for a while... It's strongly priced, but I'm a bit surprised no one has bit considering the backstory and that it's a pretty nice piece:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1838-Z-Mexi...400249642779

Silly pricing, plus rim bump 3:00 obv and too dark rev, but if the pic is accurate, how nice is that obv tone?!:
http://shop.cohenantiques.com/new-o...in-1838.html

A bit too deep on the tone:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index....pic=315381.0
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 Posted 11/23/2011  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one looks great indeed - superb tone and details. I wish it had a bit stronger strike (eagle's strong legs are missing).
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 Posted 11/23/2011  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the comments, guys.

@realeswatcher - thank you for that bit of information about the Meridien hoard. First time I've heard about it and i'll be doing some research on it when I get home tonight.

@RealPeso - I agree, this is not off-center. Perhaps he was referring to the weak areas on the obverse / reverse?
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