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1864 2 Cent Sm & Lg Motto - Grading Help

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1} small motto - G-4 ?
2} large motto - G-10 ?

1864-2-Cent-Sm-&-Lg-Motto---Grading-Help

1864-2-Cent-Sm-&-Lg-Motto---Grading-Help

1864-2-Cent-Sm-&-Lg-Motto---Grading-Help

1864-2-Cent-Sm-&-Lg-Motto---Grading-Help
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I think G-4 on the first and F-12 on the second.
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I went G-10 on the 2nd since grading guides say F-12 the word "WE" is weak. No E Showing on mine.
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G-6 and VF
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Just asking... they look like both are large motto's to me.
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The Small Motto should grade G4/G6 The Large Motto looks F-15/VF20.
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Just asking... they look like both are large motto's to me.


Check the "D" in God - just visible, definitely a Small Motto. It has a very different look than the large motto coins.
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the first coin is a Good because the top OBV details merge with the rim and the second one is a VF.
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Grading guides are just that "guides" they point you in the right direction but sometimes a coin just doesn't go by these guides. This coin had a weak E in the first place so it wore off quicker then the rest of the coin.
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Yeah, that #2 is at least F. Always look over the whole coin and never take any of the checkpoints too literally. I'll stay with your G4, on #1.
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