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New Reports Of Error "Notched Tailfeathers" 2011-S Eagles

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 Posted 11/24/2011  12:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was poking around ebay, and saw this listing just up:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-25th-A...t_821wt_1139
Checked my S-Mint & Bullion Coin..BOTH have the notches in Tailfeathers...off to check other 3 boxes...

Let's see what develops on this possible interesting news!
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 Posted 11/24/2011  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's what I found on my 4 sets, and, 1 PCGS FS "Struck in SF" coin:
Box 1---S-Mint Eagle...Notch=YES
No-S Eagle......Notch=YES(strong)
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Box 2--S-Mint Eagle...Notch=YES
No-S Eagle.....Notch=NO
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Box 3--S-Mint Eagle...Notch=YES
No-S Eagle.....Notch=YES(strong)
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Box 4--S-Mint Eagle...Notch=NO
No-S Eagle.....Notch=NO
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PCGS 2011(S)"Struck in SF Gold Bridge Label MS69-Notch=YES(THE most noticible, sharp, crisp indentation, true indicator of an early die state(FS)..
Side Note: ALL 4 of my NO-S Bullion coins are a true "Satin Finish"..quite noticible difference than other coins, notched or not(if that proves SF or WP Mint), ALL are satiny, and, stunning.
Calvin
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 Posted 11/24/2011  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "Satin Finish" is probably just an indicator of a good strike/early die state. The bullion die are not "sandblasted" like the uncirculated die are and even if burnished planchets were used (the mint indicates that they were not) that does not affect the appearance of the coin finish. Burnishing only makes for a more consistent finish with fewer surface flaws. I have some 2005 bullion coins that have a heavy satin finish. The finish on the bullion coins is much "thinner" than that of the uncirculated coins and if they were to be circulated the bullion coins would lose their finish very quickly as compared to the uncirculated coins. The uncirculated finish is a direct result of the die surface whereas the bullion finish is more a matter of the amount of mint luster.

here is a slightly circulated 2005 bullion SAE that has heavy mint luster:
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here is an pristine 2005 bullion SAE with a much more shiny surface:
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both coins were scanned under identical conditions.
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Very interesting. One of my S mint coins has what appears to be a notch but it's not as strong as what's in the picture of the ebay listing.
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 Posted 11/27/2011  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really doubt this is a rare variety. I looked at my set and the bullion coin has the notch and the S mint coin has it but less noticeable. But then I looked at a 2011 bullion ASE that I purchased in September from a local dealer and it has the notch also. Of course, this coin could have also been minted in San Francisco, but I don't know. My point is this notch is not just on the 25th Anniversary set coins from San Francisco.
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 Posted 11/27/2011  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know one thing, it's NOT an error.
At most, it's a die variety.
Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
When I see the title of this thread, I cringe a little.
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