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PCGS Guide Prices Vs Fair Price

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When it comes to finding a fair price to buy a PCGS graded coin for, how far below the PCGS guide price do you believe is fair?

Especially when it comes to PF70DCAM coins.

10% lower, 25% lower, 50% lower?

Because on ebay for example, many coins go for far below the guide price on a consistent basis.

I have an opportunity right now to buy many PF70DCAM State Quarters for around 85% off the guide price. What do you think?

Thanks for any responses
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Your best bet isto search hertitage auctions,green sheet,teletrade and ebay past auctions.That should give you a good start.
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There is no fixed % below PCGS Price Guide to determine market value. I use PCGS CoinFacts to check completed auction listings when verifying market value. CoinFacts compiles all public auctions onto one website.

That said, 85% of Price Guide for modern PR70DCAMs sounds high to me. Real high.
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It totally depends on the coin and the market. I know of many times I and others pay way over a listed price because we know the "particular coin" is extremely rare or hardly ever comes up for sale, or in a condition not often seen, or if we have a buyer in line for a profit regardless of the price.

As to market price to a retail customer, a wholesaler or a dealer is always a variable. But generally I see coins like common better grade Morgan & Peace dollars, and semi key silver coins sellers asking for at least $50.00 over PCGS Price on ebay site, I think Teletrade price realized and Heritage Auctions are the truest prices, dealers like to pay 10% back or more from bid in greysheet when buying, but again it will depend on the coin.

I'd gladly pay over ask for a super nice 1864LM Proof Two Cent Piece, but I would not pay bid for a MS-65 or less example, the difference is how often I can get one, 1864LM in MS65 are easy, try finding a Proof 1864LM in any grade, it's tough. I've only seen 8 sales of them in 15 years, and I've sold two myself - (wish I had one of them back now)!

I don't deal much in modern coins so I can't say how that market is, but from what I do know some coins in PF70 are next to impossible to obtain (ie: 1995W ASE PF70) others seem to be very abundant in the market. But the old adage holds here buy the coin NOT the holder!
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Thanks for the info.

When I said 85% of, what I meant to say was 85% OFF. As is 15% of the PCGS guide price. I am going for a full set of PF-70DCAM State Quarters, and also looking for resale value.
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15% of PCGS is roughly what they're actually going for at Heritage. Not a bad deal, but not a lot of room for profit except on ebay.
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