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There is a smudge on the slab over the "N" in "ONE" of the reverse.
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There is a smudge on the slab over the "N" in "ONE" of the reverse. Also The spots on the reverse are blue.
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46D - 65
54S - 63
55S - 64, maybe 65....

Angled pics make it hard to grade.
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My guesses;

46D - 64RD - The tick on the neck is a point of distraction for me
54S - 65RD - The reverse color looks like it's not helping here, could be the lighting in the photo if it's not ugly then 66RD
55S - 65RD - The reverse has a couple of ticks that hold it back from a 66 or even 67 for me.
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46D 64+
54S 63
55S 65
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Whoops I didn't see the chatter on the jacket and ticks on the cheek line for the 54S you guys are right on MS63 I was way off. Grading from only a photo can be dangerous!
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Thanks guys! I think you guys are right on the make with these. Now what did ICG think.... *drumroll* 66 on all 3
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How recent were they graded at ICG? I liked their grading at the beginning and the first few years they came out, but since then not so much.
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I'm not sure when they were graded. All three slabs are diffrent. Anyone wanna take a guess?
If I had to take a guess I'd say the one on the right is the newest. Also It doesn't seem to be red, I think its more red brown. Lincoln looks darker than the rest of the surface.


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Yep one on the right is a recent slab from them.
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ICG is usually much more liberal than the other top three TPG companies. I'd say the grades mentioned above are a bit closer to the actual grade of these coins.
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I would stick with NGC and/or PCGS if you are putting together a set of slabbed Lincolns. Anyone else is a crap shoot.(nothing to do with Dice). You should also pay careful attention to the coin inside. A few if not many have not been properly stored over the years and appear that way.
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I have had good luck with ANACS as well. But ICG does seem to be hit or miss. I got these off of ebay and I think they were about $5 each. I think they are all over graded but the 54-s and 55-s have really nice eye appeal to me. The 55-s is one of the best looking pennies I have. It has a really BRIGHT finish and stands out in my collection.
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ICG kinda lost my respect in grading quite a while ago when I had a chance to go through hundreds of MS66 graded Lincolns from PCGS, NGC, ICG, and ANACS. From what I saw, the 'hit' rate was quite low for ICG, and ANACS wasn't far better. PCGS was on the top with NGC following closely behind. I think only one of 20 coins on average from ICG was properly graded.
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