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I'm just curious how accurate is Coins magazines price guides? Is it more what you'd sell coins for or buy them?
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More towards what to but them for than sell. But these listings (like most others) are just guideline to gauge the prices on. There are many aspects to determining the actual value of your coins; condition, whether it has been cleaned, damaged, contact marks, strike quality, etc... You could two (or more) people bidding on a particular coin and the price goes through the roof. Or you could have a coin that nobody particularly wants and goes for pennies on the dollar. I almost bought an AU Details Trade dollar last night that had an opening bid of $200 (no bids after seven days ). But I withheld in hopes of finding one with no (or lesser) issues (labeled as "improper cleaning" by NGC). The bottom line is what the buyer is willing to pay for it.
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I realize that no guide is exact, I use things like that for a general idea of the value is. So if something is priced for $2, I wouldn't pay more than $2.25 and I wouldn't sell for less than $2. Does that make any sense?
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Just remember that ALL price guides are just that, GUIDES. No one really knows how much a coin is worth except what is stated on the coin itself. A Dime is only worth ten cents, one tenth of a dollar, yet if someone wants to pay a million dollars for it, then it is worth a million dollars.
All price guides are made by people and people are people. Some of those just make up a price based on another price guide.
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People attitudes change all of the time, especially when the holidays come around and last minute panic strikes! We all want to buy low and sell high, but sometimes you get burned on some items and you come out way ahead on others. I got a good deal (IMO) on a Twenty Cent Piece a couple of nights ago, nice AU strike (CCF opinions indicate that it was cleaned), for VF money. I may not be so fortunate next time I sell something to cover the expense.

Eye appeal is buy appeal. If you like something, buy it. It does not hurt to haggle with the seller, the worst thing they could say is "no". Something holds true when you sell.

I use numismedia.com Fair Market Values as a guide.
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I have always found that the Coins Magazine and Coin Prices magazines lists were inflated. I could almost always find the coin at generally 75% to 80% of what those guides list for prices.
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I realize that no guide is exact, I use things like that for a general idea of the value is. So if something is priced for $2, I wouldn't pay more than $2.25 and I wouldn't sell for less than $2. Does that make any sense?

No. I see the COINS price guide as a retail guide. If you are buying I would expect to pay somewhere around the listed price. As fr as selling you are not going to be able to sell at those retail prices. Figure up to around 40% back of the listed prices. So if it says $2 you may not be able to get more than $1.20 for it. Actually for a low value item like that you might get even less because they probably have plenty of them already. But if it is silver you would have the bullion value as a floor value.
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Thank you for all of the help! I figured that the price guide was about right for buying from a dealer, and about 20%-30% less if I was selling. I know it isn't exact but everybody needs a general guide of what the market is. Also, I've never seen anybody(dealers) pay spot price for junk silver. I had about $100 of spot price silver and they offered $74. It seems the only place to sell is ebay or craigslist.
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I would say the closet guideline is the Greysheet/Bluesheet series of publications. The top graded coins will always bring the best money. I don't mean the Pop 1 or 2 coins, I mean in each grade. i.e.; a super nice high end XF original, no damage, no cleaning, no problems will always bring more than a low end problem XF coin, and usually way above ASK pricing. So buy the best coin you can afford, I learned there is usually another coin out there, don't jump too quick on the first one you find, study the series you are collecting well, get to know the striking characteristics for each year and MM, become an expert, you'll know when you run across one, and you'll buy smart. Collectors and dealers will aways want superior material in any grade or series and end up paying for it when the find it.
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