Commemoratives As An Investment - Early Years - Thoughts?

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paleoguy45 Pillar of the Community United States 2936 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 09:38 am For Nickel Searcher, Muddler, GR58 et al..... I'm looking to move some bullion into a more stable commodity (read coins)and was soliciting any guidance you may wish to provide. I'm thinking Commemoratives (both early and modern) might be one way to go. For now I'm thinking mainly Early Commemoratives, but I am acquiring some of the Modern ones as well. Now here's the question du jour -- What are your thoughts on the best value for the money within the Early Commemorative family of fifty? By best value I am looking for the lowest going price versus the mintage figures, desirability, etc. Any thoughts, recommendations, observations will be greatly appreciated. Paleoguy Report this Post to the Staff

muddler Pillar of the Community United States 7189 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 10:47 am Early commemoratives have, at one time, commanded substantially more than they do now. Now they are not mainstream for collectors as we have seen on this sight with few followers. That being said If I were to invest my bullion into commemoratives I would look at the most aesthetically pleasing design that will cross over to more main stream collectors creating more demand and retaining value. Issues that come to mind are any of the Oregon trail coins but especially the lower mintage coins or non 1926 dated ones. I believe the Texas series would also fall into this scenario nicely too. Mintages for individual Arkansas halves are all low with none exceeding much over 13,000, that would look tempting but the design is not the best. Always popular (but not cheep) are the Gettysburg, and Antietam but as far as a possible lower mintage sleeper I would consider the Elgin, Delaware, Lynchburg and Albany. Report this Post to the Staff
paleoguy45 Pillar of the Community United States 2936 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 11:06 am Thanks for your input Muddler. If looks as if we think along the same lines. I just bought a 1933 Oregon Trail this past week and eagerly await its arrival. I will share it as soon as it finds its new home.. Report this Post to the Staff
muddler Pillar of the Community United States 7189 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 11:29 am In my wish list is a full sub set of Oregon Train halves. three down eleven to go. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsearcher Moderator United States 15409 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 6:09 pm Hmmm ... good question that I have considered as well ... I start with the premise that the classic USA commemorative series will never be 'main-stream' as a collecting goal. We are not going to find hundreds of thousands of collectors chasing these coins like we have today for say Lincoln Cents. I also believe that demand for these coins ... hence long term price appreciation as an investment, will be driven by two separate segments of the collecting world ... One collector segment will be looking for a coin or two from the series that meets certain aesthetic/personal criteria. These collectors will never intend to assemble a full 50-coin type set ... but their demand for a few 'special' coins should drive long-term price appreciation. muddler captured IMHO a some key points of this potential market segment ... Quote: I would look at the most aesthetically pleasing design that will cross over to more main stream collectors creating more demand and retaining value. Along those lines I would include the Oregon Trail, Texas and the Civil War coins (Stone Mountain, Gettysburg and Antietam). I do not believe that this segment of collectors care about mintage totals ... they are after a few well designed coins. I do believe long-term investment opportunities exist for these coins in most grades as they should continue to appeal to future generations of collectors. The second market demand I suggested above is IMHO more critical ... the committed collector who wishes to assemble a full type set of premium quality coins. These future collectors will be after premium coins with eye appeal and certification ... investment grade coins regardless of the specific design. To this future market segment an MS63 Oregon Trail is 'common' ... regardless of it's particular design appeal. A PCGS MS67/CAC approved Oregon Trail however with excellent strike and great eye appeal will forever be valued by the second segment of collectors. Personally ... I'm not considering my classic silver commemorative type set as an 'investment' ... but FWIW I have taken approach #2 ... premium quality coins in PCGS holders with CAC approval. Hence two options for you PG based on my viewpoints ... whatever you do I would avoid 'common' MS63-MS64 coins that do not fit either model. For example ... IMHO there is no future potential appreciation in buying an MS63 1893 Columbian half. Best David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art Report this Post to the Staff
yotie Pillar of the Community United States 3077 Posts	Posted 12/11/2011 6:18 pm Quote: If I were to invest my bullion into commemoratives I would look at the most aesthetically pleasing design that will cross over to more main stream collectors creating more demand and retaining value. I have taken this approch with the moderns in UNC Like the IKE ,Franklins, Jefferson and Lincoln. I will let ya know on how I do in ten years Report this Post to the Staff
cc99999 Pillar of the Community United States 1302 Posts	Posted 12/15/2011 01:34 am modern commemorative issues have almost always been losers. I collect early commemorative coins. They key to those sets is high grades and low mintages. If you are doing this as an investment and not as a hobby- look into getting high grade pieces with low mintages. Cincinatti, Hawaii, Isabella Quarters... these types of pieces are highly sought after especially in higher grades... Report this Post to the Staff
satxwd Valued Member United States 321 Posts	Posted 12/15/2011 11:30 am I never look at any non bullion coin as an investment. That's just my opinion. Report this Post to the Staff
paleoguy45 Pillar of the Community United States 2936 Posts	Posted 12/15/2011 3:08 pm For cc99999 and satxwd: Let me recommend some light reading for you... "Profitable Coin Collecting" by David L. Ganz (Past Pres. of the ANA). His recommendation, inter alia, highlights the Modern Commemorative Dollars in MS state (non-Proof). As a long term investment, they appear highly attractive and not as subject to violent mood/price swings as is bullion and AMERICAN SILVER EAGLES (especially 25th Anniversary sets)! Report this Post to the Staff
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