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Pillar of the Community
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I found this 1979 nickel roll searching and was wondering if it is a real clip. I know it is probably only worth a nickel with all the damage, but was wondering if what appears to be a clip is or PMD. Obverse  Reverse  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Moderator
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I don't see the Blakeley effect so I would say it's PMD. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I lean toward it being real. Look at the way the rim dips into the clip area and the weakness of the devices in the area of the clip. I also think I see a Blakesly effect though it is subtle (appropriate for such a small clip). A microscopic examination of the clipped edge and the metal flow lines in the clip area would settle it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The devices should be soft on the rim and it appears it is, but the image doesn't show this area close enough for me to say either way. So a close up area of the incomplete planchet area might help?
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Pillar of the Community
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I will get better pics up tomorrow of that area. Thanks for the help so far.
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Valued Member
United States
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I have found at least 20 similar nickels from roll searching. I think it is a clipped planchet but it is very minor.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is definitely a real clip, no doubt about it.
1. The Blakesley effect does not HAVE to be on a coin for it to be a real clip.
2. The Blakesley effect usually does not show on such minor clips.
3. This is a rim clip - less than 5%. Very little premium for these.
4. Faking such a small clip would be counterproductive for the person doing so.
5. As Coop said, the devices near the clip should be weak - they are.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a real clip. The fadeout and taper of the design rim as it nears the clip is one good diagnostic that hasn't been mentioned.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the help, this is my first clip so I did not know and it had a lot of other PMD. Here are some more pics   Here is an attempt at a side shot.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I didn't know what the Blakeley effect is so I went googling. The answer seems harder to find than usual! Here it is for those who need to know: The gradual fading of the thickness of the coin towards the clip -- it will not be an abrupt transition. Here's an awesome primer on clips: http://board.conecaonline.org/showt...d.php?t=2600 |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 with coppercoins, for the reasons listed. |
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Posted 12/19/2011 2:46 pm
