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1923 Cent - Your Opinion Of Grade?

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 Posted 12/21/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is one of the nicest 1923 cents I have seen, when the coin is in hand.



This is why it is almost impossible to grade a coin through a scratched holder such as this one, the coin looked like it had been cleaned with a few small dings on it.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like you said, light is everything, if it's that Red it will sell itself regardless of it's TPG grade. We know PCGS will knock it to R/B for a few spots. I'm going to assume it's been in that package for a bit because I have a hard time differentiating between what's in focus on the plastic for "scrapy spots" and what's on the coin.

Regardless of any dings, the strike is really good and if there are no spots or scrapes, just localized toning haze and the bag hits, then it will bring Red money or close to it and might attract a wider audience for the coin in the US market.

If this is just a coin for you personally then it doesn't matter at all.

I'm very surprised at the 64, I know there's eye appeal, but there are some nice dings on the obverse with the scrape (or is that just in the plastic?) in the right field being detracting. I guess being out the way of the bust for the most part is the ideal in the technical sense though. Add in a point for the nice strike just because I suppose. I'm also forced to assume any thing I see on the reverse now is just plastic problems.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, just because one TPG provided an opinion, it does not mean they are right. This is a coin for me (I bought it raw two years ago, languishing in an old, cloudy, dusty 2x2 at a coin shop here in Ottawa). It was certified last year. I think I found a gem, for a great price. As for seeing it in a MS-64 holder, I would be fooling only myself, because, like you, I think it is a nice MS-63, not more.... while the reverse is perfect, there are just too many marks on the obverse for a MS-64 (and a future buyer would agree). It is in a proper holder, with the proper grade now.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I asked a dealer at a coin show one time if he had any high end pennies. He pulled out this particular cent and said he did not have it graded yet. I looked at it for a very long time woundering about the grade. I could only guess at MS63 or 64 knowing there was no way I could affored it. How much I asked? He said it's atleast a MS 62 and he needed $2000. Handing the coin back I said He was lucky to have it.
My guess the coin came back MS 65. There were no distracting marks what so ever at 10 power. It would have been a good day to buy.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least a couple of us were close.
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 Posted 12/21/2011  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A coin like this is a true rarity and a beauty as well. Who cares what the grading services say! When you are ready to sell it I am sure that more than a few willing buyers will step up! IMHO Pcgs is way to hard on what is red or red brown and ICCS is a touch too liberal based on my years of experience.NICE coin!
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 Posted 12/21/2011  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dollar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A beauty. PCGS is tough on red cents.
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 Posted 12/22/2011  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin regardless of who gave what grade.
Internet grading being what it is,all requests for grading uncirculated coins,especially cents,should start with "guess the grade"
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 Posted 12/22/2011  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coiladdict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

That's one nice looking coin...especially for that time period. Nice
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