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 Posted 12/27/2011  12:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add seawind to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a Canadian penny with the date side missing. The head side reveals a clear image of the Queen. The date side has a ghost image of the Queen. Anyone have any information on this coin?

Larry.


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Weight? Bigger pix? Could be PMD or a split planchet. The ghosting of the queen suggest a planchet split after striking.
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 Posted 12/27/2011  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF.I think it's a brockage or a die cap. Nice and would have a nice premium to.
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It looks like the obverse is reversed on the first picture?
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Looks like a split planchet but a weight in grams is critical to reach further conclusions on this error/ piece. A brockage is another possibility. Weight?
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papeldog-

hold up a regular cent and turn it on a 12-6 axis. that's exactly the way the queen would face.
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There are many here that know far far more about errors than me. But I think that this is as John1 and Colonial John have said....a capped die/brockage. A penny got stuck in the die that strikes the reverse so on the side that was supposed to be struck with the with the reverse die it was instead struck with the obverse side of the stuck coin. Hence the image is weak and backwards.

Again I may be wrong in my interpretation, but the coin I put up in a recent error thread called I bought Myself a Chrstmas Present is a very similar thing. Perhaps in my case the stuck cent had been struck so many times that it became very thin and allowed the die to transmit the proper, though in a ghostly way.
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Is the weakly struck Queen image or Brockage side, incused or sunken into the penny, or is it a raised image?
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A better picture would help us out big time!
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thats interesting, I agree with colonialjohn, we need the weight if you could? and maybe better pics
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Thank you for your response. The coin feels about half the weight of a regular penny. I will endeavor to obtain a weight.
Not sure how to provide larger pics, used optimizer to reduce photo size for posting. Any suggestions? I am new to this type of format.

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any jewelry, pawn shop or bullet reloader should be able to give you an accurate weight.

Try uploading without using the optimizer.
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Try putting it in your scanner, not as good as a photo but they work out ok.
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A digital postal scale indicated the weight of a standard penny at 2 grams and the half penny at 1 gram. *** Email Removed by Staff ***
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Considering the scale gave a standard one cent piece a weight of 2 grams this could easily be a foreign planchet too. I'm not saying it is. Given the ballpark weight and size and the portrait year range of HRH maybe a UAE planchet brockage.

It's an interesting error. A jewelry store should be able to give you the weight to a tenth of a gram. What that will help do is decide if it's the right size for a foreign smaller planchet or it's a split, the latter being more desirable I assume? Someone else who collects errors can answer that.
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Although your pictures are small it does appear what you have is a early stage (first strike) mirror brockage error coin. A very nice and desirable one at that.

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