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Australian 20c Coins And "Washers"

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Do you guys come across UK large size 10p, cupronickel florins or similar coins in circulation in Australia? I compared them with a 20c yesterday and they look very much similar, specially the old 10p.
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molydeii: Yes, we Australians used to get quite a few cupronickel British florins and 10 P coins commonly in circulation in the Country up until 1992, at which time the British reduced the size of their 10 P coin. I lived in Manchester for nearly 2 years in the 1970's and brought maybe a dozen or so unspent florins back from the United Kingdom with me.

Like most tourists returning home from the U.K., I just put them into the circulating currency.

Same with British tourists who visited Australia. For the same reason I circulated Australian 20 cent pieces in the U.K. I thought it was fun, even if it was a little naughty!

Coins of the Pacific Island Countries circulate in Australia for the same reason also.
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Sel, do you still see those 10p or maybe a florin coin or two in circulation, rolls or bags? Do the banks take them out of circulation / mint destroys or melts them? What's the current approach, if there is any?
Yes you were naughty! Back n the 70's. The other day I found an Egypt 1 pound coin in circulation, posing as a 50 Kurus Turkish coin. It is a nice surprise for a collector I think.
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I have been to Turkey, but I haven't put any Australian coins into circulation in Turkey! Spent some time in Trabzon, (Trebizond to ancient collectors). I bought some beautiful fresh fish (flounder) straight of a fishing trawler. Best fresh fish I have eaten!

I have a bronze coin of Ammisos. I remember those old stainless steel? 100 TL coins in my pocket.

I have not seen a British 10 P or 5 P since the mid 1990's in Australia.
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I found this 10 pence coin in a 20c bag during either Tuesday or Wednesday's noodle. My first one but it shows they must still be floating around in the system.

It is just about identical to the Australian 20c in diameter and thickness.

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Hi Oner,
I find a few. Mostly 10P in 20ยข change bags. Have a few here now.

Last florin I found in change was a New Zealand one. Old style decimal New Zealand and Fiji coins are reasonably common.


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Do the banks take them out of circulation / mint destroys or melts them? What's the current approach, if there is any?

Yes, banks will take them out of circulation if they detect them. The problem is, they have exactly the same specifications, so the only way they'd spot them is by eye.

What happens to British coins, specifically, after this I'm not too sure, but I'm pretty sure the coins aren't returned back to Britain - that's just not cost-effective. Back in the 1920's, the Australian mints held an account; for every British coin they pulled from circulation and melted down, the British government would be reimbursed the same amount. I don't know if such a system is still in place. I think these days, British stuff just gets chucked into the "worthless foreign coins" bin and sold for scrap with the rest of them.
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Hey Guys, thank you very much for your responses. It's enligtening to learn. I've got 50 of those old 10p's lying inside a small jam jar here, maybe it's time for a trip to down under :)
Meanwhile, it's still exciting, yet I suspect slightly illegal, to see these old boys and lasses circulating and have a use there. I have a thing for large copper nickel coins, they feel more like a coin than an average played coin. We used to have big, thick coins back in the mid 90's here, no more of them now.
Jeff, I still praise you and Yass for helping me build a lovely Australian collection here
Sel, can those fish be 'hamsi' ? They're very famous there.. Small boneless fish, they are. :)
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Do the banks take them out of circulation / mint destroys or melts them? What's the current approach, if there is any?


The current approach is that they are not legal tender in Australia.

Banks will not accept them and it is anyone's right to refuse to accept a foreign coin as payment or in change.

In the real world though they do circulate freely, especially since the UK and NZ coins are the same size and same obverse portrait. It's just not worth getting in an argument with a shop over a foreign 5c or 10c.

I have received plenty of foreign coins in my noodle bags from the Banks. Mostly New Zealand but also a few UK 5p and 10p coins.

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When returning coins to Commonwealth Bank had a few foreign coins (5c like) that wouldnt go through their machines (which sucked, cause I get the foreign coins in the bags from the bank!) - anyways, Rotary have a foreign coin collection box at all Commbanks apparently - and they use them for charity in those countries.

- Mostly I find foreign N.Z 5c piece like ones - which coin machines will put through - but have had trouble with malaysian coins, fiji coins (too light) and a couple of other ones with no English and just squiggles on them.
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