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Coin Challenge For January 2012

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 Posted 12/31/2011  11:54 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Greater Atlanta Coin Show to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Prior to each monthly coin show, we introduce a Coin Challenge on our blog. The challenge and its answer are posted to our web site after each show.

I thought it would be fun to add the January coin challenge to the forum for members to have fun discussing.

The objective is to identify the coin, obverse or reverse, the year (or years) minted, the type (circulating, commemorative or both), the metal (silver, gold, cupro-nickel, platinum or bi-metallic) and any other specifics about the coin.

First, the picture:



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Now, the hints - just a few and hopefully obscure enough such that I don't give it away too quickly!

1. Whaling made the area prosperous
2. Kerosene generated an economic downturn
3. The area profited from vice with a large red light district and many bars

That's it for now. I may add more hints on our blog between now and the January 15th coin show.

Visit our web site to view some of the earlier coin challenges. (Following Forum rules, I am not adding a link to the web site, but you can easily find it by searching on "Greater Atlanta Coin Show.")

To date, we have not provided prizes on our web site for the coin challenges, just the fun of the game - something to consider for the future.

In the meantime, I hope the forum will have fun discussing the coin challenge.

One additional hint - the coin challenge will always be a legal tender coin produced by the US Mint because that is what I have available to photograph.
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 Posted 12/31/2011  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add f16 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is hard
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 Posted 12/31/2011  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure how the clues fit but.... the reverse of a 1935 Hudson, New York Sesquicentennial?
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 Posted 01/01/2012  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add f16 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it is reverse I can not figure out what year or coin it is
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 Posted 01/01/2012  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its the 1935 Hudson, New York Sesquicentennial, Reverse motif: Neptune on whale (from city seal)

the full image:

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 Posted 01/01/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep .... believe you folks nailed it.

No doubt one of the funkiest USA coin designs ever ... Chester Beach had some fun with this one.

The obverse features Henry Hudson ship Half Moon ... which Beach commemorated with an image of a quarter moon!

Here is my PCGS MS66/CAC example ... net mintage of 10,008 coins and one of three USA classic silver type with only 10,000 mintage (along with the Hawaiian and Spanish Trail).

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With a little imagination ... you can 'see' that the stern of the Half Moon is in fact the continuation of the whale's tail that Beach cropped off on the reverse (I have my photo obverse and reverse backwards).

David

Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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 Posted 01/01/2012  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RMAN4443 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not sure how the clues fit but.... the reverse of a 1935 Hudson, New York Sesquicentennial?


Wow,nice job amida17.....6 hours and 12 minutes....very quick
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 Posted 01/01/2012  6:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greater Atlanta Coin Show to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kudos to you -- especially amida17!

Yes, this is the reverse of the Hudson, New York Sesquicentennial commemorative half dollar.

But, here's another quandary.

The 2012 Red Book claims Neptune and his trident are on the reverse of the coin. Conversely, the US Mint's website from their historical area claims the seal of the City of Hudson, New York is the coin's obverse.

You get to decide which you think the image represents -- obverse or reverse.

As for the hints, they were obscure on purpose, but that didn't deter several of you from identifying the coin. Congratulations on your knowledge of classic commemoratives!

Even though Hudson, NY is several miles inland, the early Dutch settlers thrived from a seafaring economy, for example, whale oil. When kerosene began being used in lamps instead of the whale oil, the area saw a significant loss in their economy.

Fast forward a few years and the area preyed on people's vices. Fifty or so bars thrived in the city along with gambling and a large red light district. During his term, Governor of New York, Thomas E. Dewey, played an instrumental role in breaking the vice rings of the Hudson area.

The book, Diamond Street: The Story of the Little Town with the Big Red Light District by Bruce Edward Hall tells of the shadier side of Hudson.

Regarding the seal of Hudson, in the 1862 book by Stephen B. Miller (Historical Sketches of Hudson, Embracing the Settlement of the City, City Government, Business Enterprises, Churches, Press, Schools, Libraries, Etc.), the city's seal was purchased in 1785 -- the first year of the city -- by Nathaniel Greene, Seth Jenkins, John Bay, Ezra Reed, Stephen Paddock, Benjamin Folger, Dirck Delamater, John Ten Broeck and Peter Hogeboom. They each contributed eleven shillings and four pence. Mr. Miller stated, "This seal is still in use, never having been changed." But, that was 1862.

Now, a few Google searches haven't found an up-to-date image of the Seal of Hudson, New York. It would be interesting to know if the seal purchased in 1785, the image of the seal on the 1935 Hudson Sesquicentennial coin and the official seal today are similar or different.

The searches on city seals along with Neptune found mention of other parts of the globe, such as European cities, that have Neptune as part of their seals.

Another interesting search result showed details of a medal rather than a seal or a coin. The Medallic History of Oliver Cromwell describes a medal showcasing "Neptune on a car, drawn by two sea-horses: the shields of arms of England and Holland resting on his knees, between which is a wreath. He holds a trident in his right hand, and...."

But back to the coin challenge, congratulations to all of you who recognized the Hudson Sesquicentennial with a big WELL DONE to amida17!
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 Posted 01/02/2012  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Even though Hudson, NY is several miles inland,


I would say so! About 200 actually!

I am from about ann hour north of there and had no idea about Hudsons interesting history. It's actually a somewhat run-down, semi-dangerous little city now....sad really!
I will make sure to read up on its past though.
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 Posted 01/07/2012  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add f16 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for putting together this contest.Will there be more challanges?
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 Posted 01/26/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm definitely interested in the next challenge, so hopefully there will be more.
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great contest
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 Posted 02/10/2012  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They don't have one for Feb yet, but here is comment about the Jan.

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For fun, we also put the January coin challenge on the Coin Community Forum. Kudos to the people who quickly figured it out.


BTW - their coin show is this Sunday, Feb 12 9am-5pm at the Hilton Atlanta/Marietta Hotel & Conference Center located at 500 Powder Springs Street just south of the historic Marietta Square in Marietta, Georgia.

I am going to see if I can find a reasonable price on a 2012 ASE, and look about some CWT.
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It would be interesting to know if the seal purchased in 1785, the image of the seal on the 1935 Hudson Sesquicentennial coin and the official seal today are similar or different.


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