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I often say I am not a numismatic person and for the most part I am not. However as a bullion person every now and then I get attracted to a few numismatic items such as Morgan silver dollars. I tend to buy the BU Morgans every now and then.

So my question is how good of a value are the GSA packaged Morgans? I understand what they are and the different years etc.

My question - are they a good value? I am looking at the lower end ones ( no keys dates etc) that run around $185.

Generally I have been buying BU Morgans at the very low end because they look nice and fit my budget. But now I would like to have a CC minted Morgan just to have one and the GSA's look nice.
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They are a good value. They are even a better value if you can get them with the original packaging (to inlude box) and certificate. $185 is a good price for the common dates (82,83,84) with packaging and cert.
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They're a solid investment in original packaging. People have been busting them out of that packaging to put in slabs for years, and it's recognized that original GSA packages are much rarer than before.
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I appreciate the information.
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I don't think you can go wrong with any GSA Morgan as long as it has the box and paper work with it (even though you can purchase separately all the time) and at the price you mentioned I am guessing it would be 1883-1884-CC GSA Morgans you are looking at and I don't remember them selling for much less than that since I have been collecting them so I would say they would probably be something that you wouldn't really have to worry about losing money on at that price. I think I have about 20 or 30 in the SDB that I purchased about 6 or 7 years ago and I think I paid close to that amount then for them. If you ever get one graded I would go with NGC because they are the only ones I know of that will keep the GSA Morgans in their original GSA packaging
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One of the items I intend to add to my collection this year. Definitely a good investment in OGP as mentioned.
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My question - are they a good value? I am looking at the lower end ones ( no keys dates etc) that run around $185.

Well right after the sales ended in 74 they moved to about the $70 level and then did absolutely nothing for about 25 years. Then they made a huge jump to the $200 level around 2000, settled back to the $185 level where they have now sat doing nothing for twelve years, for a return on investment of 0% or a loss of about $90 due to inflation since 2000 if you bought them then.

If you bought them in 1974 then they have grown by a little less than 3% per year and you've only taken about a $22 loss to inflation.

If on the other hand you bought them in 1999 when they were still $70 you would have a 9% per annum rate of return and would have beaten inflation by roughly $90. (If you had bought in 99 and sold in 2001 you would have had a 40% return on investment and would have been ahead of inflation by about $115.)

Timing is everything.
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Which GSA Silver dollars? Most people mean Carson City when GSA dollars are brought up, but the GSA also sold other MM dated coins, Unc and Circulated. I think all GSA dollars are now considered a collectable in their own right. The GSA sold hard packs and soft packs.
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The only true investment grade GSA dollars, CC or other mints, are those NGC graded MS-64 or higher in the original packaging with the certificate. The 1882, 1883, and 1884 CC's in MS-63 or less are still quite common and if you're looking just to have a CC dolar in a GSA holder then one of these is your least expensive choice but don't expect them to appreciate too much over time.

Bryan1315 is correct, NGC is the only grading service which will leave the coin in its original package and wrap their certification label around it.

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ANACS also grades/authenticates CC GSA pack dollars in the original holder now as well as NGC. ANACS started this program in August 2011.

http://www.anacs.com/contentPages/S...e.aspx?ID=65

I've got a nice 1878-CC VAM 11 I'd like to certify soon.

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I love the GSA CCs. I'm my opinion they are more of a long term investment, but I doubt you would lose money. If I was rich Id be buying up 1885 CCs for sure and see what there worth in 20-30 years.

I have 2 GSAs (1883cc, 1884cc) I'm about to put on ebay but I keep thinking I should get them graded first when I see ones that come back graded like this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1883-CC-GSA..._2512wt_1344
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I'm not looking at this from a speculation point of view. I had to re-read what I wrote to make sure I wasn't asking this.

By a good value what I meant are they price fair or are they over priced. I'm not concerned if they grow in value or not.

Basic point is having a great condition BU CC Silver Dollar.

I just always wanted a CC Silver dollar and these look to be very nice. Of course the packaging adds a little more interest even though I know how many are out there.

I am getting the 1882 CC GSA Morgan silver dollar.
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By a good value what I meant are they price fair or are they over priced. I'm not concerned if they grow in value or not.

OK I misinterpreted your first post.

The question then is what is meant by a "fair price" or "overpriced"? A difficult question especially when if we are to divorce it from the question of future prices. In that case all I can say is that a coin is "fairly priced" when it is price closely to prices widely quoted for similar coins, and overpriced when the dealer is asking well over the price of similar coins. So if the 1882 CC you are looking at is priced in line with other similar coins from other dealers, then it is fairly priced.
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