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Was There A Better Year Than 1916?

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 Posted 01/11/2012  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you '21-ers have made a believer out of me! Especially after seeing the way GR58 laid it all out for us!

Edit - Ugh! I made my post before reading what Conder had to say. Now I'm conflicted again!
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01/11/2012 10:24 am
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say the 21'ers take it for the 20th century, but being a lover of anything that starts with "179" I have to go with Conder on this one. Anybody else have a year with more rare & valuable coins
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't forget 1873! Not counting the IHC doubled dies and the unknown 1873-S no-arrows Seated half and Seated dollar, there are about 51 different dates, mints, and major varieties to collect.

Indian cent (open 3, closed 3, two major DDO's)
2-Cent piece (final year, proof only, open and closed 3)
3-Cent silver (final year, proof only)
3-Cent nickel
Half Dime (final year, P & S mint)
Shield nickel (open and closed 3)
Dime, no arrows (P mint open and closed 3; unique CC mint)
Dime, with arrows (P, S, and CC mint)
Quarter, no arrows (P mint open and closed 3; rare CC mint)
Quarter, with arrows (P, S, and CC mint)
Half dollar, no arrows (P mint open and closed 3; CC mint; S mint with no known survivors)
Half dollar, with arrows (P, S, and CC mints)
Seated dollar (final year; P, CC, and no-survivor S-mint)
Trade dollar (first year; P, S, and CC mint)
1-Dollar gold (open and closed 3)
Quarter Eagle (open and closed 3)
3-Dollar gold (proof only, open and closed 3)
Half eagle (P mint open and closed 3; S and CC mint)
Eagle (P mint closed 3 only; S and CC mint)
Double Eagle (P mint open and closed 3; S mint open and closed 3; CC mint).

Now THAT's a year set!
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffrose to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like we have the 18th, 19th & 20th century winners

any other offerings to take over any of the centuries?
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 Posted 01/11/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2009 seems to be the winner for the 21st century so far, with an amazing 20 distinct cent issues (four designs in proof, plus four designs in two compositions/finishes from two mints), not even counting varieties, and the lowest mintage of nickels since the 1950s.

I would also like to see a 2016 "throwback" set in uncirculated and proof (classic composition of course.) The proofs should be the older style without the artificial cameo effect, and they should use the original high-relief 1916 designs for the dime and half dollar.
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2016-S special three-piece Silver Proof Set with a Winged Liberty (Mercury) Dime, Type I Standing Liberty quarter and Walking Liberty Half-Dollar.

How about all clad business strike 2016 Dimes issued as Mercury dimes? We really need a one-year break from the FDR monotony!

Then in November 2016, a silver 2016-D Uncirculated Mercury dime, limited to 264,000.
( just to test how fast the Mint's new ordering system will be... )
DNA has gotten me excited about what could come to be in 2016.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why limit it to a three-piece set? Thrown in a bronze 2016 Wheat cent and a Buffalo nickel. A second set could cover the gold denominations.
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The question I have is; how do we get the mint (or whoever passes these kinds of ideas) to actually do it?

It makes too much sense not to do it! That leaves Congress out.
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AFAIK, all the commemorative coins that get produced are authorized by acts of congress, so that's what it would take. Congress seems to do a nearly adequate job with these sorts of trivialities, naming post offices and whatnot, so it can probably be done. They really only dig in their heels when it comes to things that actually affect the welfare of the country.
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To get an issue of one year 90% dime, quarter, and half, in the classic designs would be slight if any. I propose fractional .999 fine silver issues with a 1/2 ounce walking liberty design, 1/4 ounce with the standing liberty design and a 1/10 once with the Mercury dime design with the observe and reverse comparable to the early designs but notating the weight. Then they could be issued in consecutive years.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
90% silver is used in silver proof sets and they seem popular enough for the mint to continue with them. I'm fond of the idea of going with original compositions.
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Thrown in a bronze 2016 Wheat cent and a buffalo nickel

Those two aren't 1916-debut designs like the silver coins, but they would make nice additions.

The Mint missed the opportunity for a 2009-S VDB Wheat cent... (it would have been the killer coin for the C&C Set!)

For the 2016 Mercs: The clad business strikes should have "P" and "D" mintmarks on the obverse, to discourage HSN, Littleton, etc. from silver-plating them.

Only the silver 2016-D Unc. and 2016-S Proof would have their mintmarks in the original 1916 location on the reverse.
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01/11/2012 7:55 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add funcitypapa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not sure about the # of varieties, but 1804 is the magical date for me.
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I agree with DNA regarding the mintmarks. Of course, I'd like to see some newer designs to the coinage that include liberty's image instead of presidents, but that's just me (and seemingly a large number of other collectors as well).
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 Posted 01/14/2012  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Conder101 is dead-on that 1796 would be the best year to have a complete set from. An 1857 complete set would also have much to offer in numismatic history (last Half-Cent and Large Cent, the Flying Eagle cent, Half Eagles from five different Mints).

The economic downturn of 1921 created a lot of key dates, but 1916 is the year that circulating coinage turned into art.
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