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So this may be one of those "good news, bad news" stories. So on my last coin show visit, I picked up an 1883 no cents V nickel for $11 because it was in pretty good shape expect for some green stuff, and I've been kicking around the idea of creating my own "racketeer" nickel with reeds to stick in an empty slot in my album. I thought this coin would be a good candidate. So in the meantime, I'm working on another coin project, and I wanted some representative photos of several US coins. I thought this V nickel would be the best sample I have outside of an album, so it would probably photograph well. As I'm taking the photos, I notice a significant die crack on the reverse. The photo is below, but I also noticed that that edge of my photo setup is not in focus, so I apologize. I would like comments on the die crack. Does this make the coin more desirable to any group of collectors? If so, how much are we talking? In brief, I offer this coin up for discussion:  New pic:  Edited by specksynder
06/18/2011 10:25 pm
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thats not a die break, its a Retained Cud, and if it were me, id pay around $20-25(im not offering to buy it) its a very nice example. |
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hmmm... a Retained Cud even though the denticles continue around the rim? |
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I also noticed that that edge of my photo setup is not in focus, so I apologize. Agreed ... so instead of making an apology ... why not just re-shoot the photo so we can see what you see.  I do see the die crack ... IMHO it is working it's way to a Cud ... but the die is not there yet. David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Okay, nickelsearcher, you're right. Here's a pic with the questionable area in focus. Adam -- I think I misunderstood exactly what a Cud is. This is a " Retained Cud" because the denticles (and the rest of the design) are still present despite the fracture? A normal Cud would not have those features but rather a blob of metal that did not get molded? |
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I concur with Adam, it would be a Retained Cud. Not only does the crack need to be rim-to-rim, but the broken segment of the die has to be shifted. You can have either a vertical shift(broken portion of die sinks) or horizontal shift which is what yours has. look carefully at the denticles directly on each side of the crack- there is an outward shift. On a full Cud, the broken piece of die has completely fallen away which creates a void on the die and a raised lump on the struck coin. |
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Yeah, that's the definition of a "retained Cud." For me, it makes the coin more interesting and desirable; I'd consider paying a small premium over a "whole" coin in similar condition. It's a very subjective thing, but V nickels are particularly prone to this damage, like other early nickel issues. Therefore any additional value might be lessened with this one due to commonality, by comparison to "easier" strikes like copper or silver. |
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Hi everybody, this is my first post in a forum! Can you guess what kind of coin I am interested in?If I saw this at a coin show, I would buy it immediately, wouldn't even ask my wife first.
Regarding die cracks in general my father had some Mexican 8 Reales with many die cracks...like 6 or 7 in one coin! He had been collecting since the 1930's and had amassed a lot of coins and knowlege in over 65 years of collecting...the simple fact that he had many coins of the same type with die cracks implies to me that some collectors are very interested in this kind of thing. Count me one of them too!
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 warnickle ! Me too, I buy all kinds of stuff like this, I'd snap this up in a heartbeat if I saw it at a shop, or show, or even on ebay. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Posted 06/18/2011 9:57 pm
I love it! 
