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1st Box Of Pennies

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 Posted 01/13/2012  08:31 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add asyrp43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found these coins while searching through my first box of pennies. I'm not very familier with searching for errors so I'm still learning. I pulled out anything that looked odd to me to review later. These are a few that I found and need your opinions on.


These first two looked like cracked dies to me. Is that correct? I didn't realize the second picture is a little blury until I put it on my computer. That is a raised line..it's not a cut.

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This one is all scratched up but I noticed the D mint mark looked low and to the left. I didn't know what caused that or if that was an error.

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This 1989 penny had a hole in the side. I didn't know if this was from damage or something that happened at the mint. I assume it's damage but it looked strange to me. It looks like something has eaten the inside of the penny away.

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Thanks for your help and patience while I'm learning!

-Allen
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1st on 1988-D looks like a gas bubble which is common on zincs.

The 1983 might also be a gas bubble but it could be a die crack. I'm not sure one this one.

before 1990 (i think thats right) all the mint marks where done by hand so they have different points of contact.

the 1989 PMD
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Hi,

The first two coins look to me like gas bubbles under the copper plating. This happened fairly often in the early years of copper plated zinc cents. A die crack tends to be more jagged looking, and usually fairly thin. Small ones are often found coming off the corners of the memorial. The third coin, although beat up pretty bad, is normal. Mintmarks were punched into the dies by hand until the 1990's, so the placement will vary a little from die to die. They are only worth extra if the mintmark touches the date. The last one is just zinc rot. The copper plating split open and exposed the zine to the elements. Zinc is a fairly reactive metal and will corrode quickly when exposed to air and water.

Keep looking, there is still good stuff out there to be found. This is a great place to learn about whatever you find. I learn tons just by looking at all the posts to see what others are finding, and whats a true error or variety versus just plain damage.

Dave
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Thanks for all the info guys! I'm learning...
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I have learned alot from this site. I am sure you will too. Did you check the back of the 1988 for the RDV-006?

click here --------> http://www.lincolncentresource.com/...988RDV6.html
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no Jayman...I've never heard of that one. I will check it out. Thanks for the tip!
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It is a 1988 Cent with a 1989 Reverse. The designers initials is the giveaway.
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The cent and nickel dies had the MM punched on them before 1990 and the dime and above denominations had the MM punched on the dies before 1991. So once the MM was added to the master die instead of being punched on the die, that is when the RPMs stopped happening.

A great book to have is called "The Modern Minting Process and U.S. Minting Errors and Varieties" by James Wiles. It is printed by the ANA and should be able to be bought at ANA tables at coin shows. I bought mine a few years ago for $24.95. A lot cheaper than what they advertised on their web site back then.
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