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Why Haven't Canadian Ebay Sellers Learned Yet......

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 Posted 01/15/2012  10:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Why haven't sellers on ebay of Canadian coins who list their coins for 'buy-it-now' prices of 80% to 100% learned yet that nobody is buying these?
For 3 years now the market stinks, yet big sellers (one from BC) keep listing their coins for 100% of trends and if you check their history of completed sales on ebay, nothing (or an extremely low percentage) sells.
Do they really think the market is as strong as pre-2009?
I guess they don't mind sitting on 3 to 4 year old inventory.
When I was self-employed (not in the coin business) turn over of merchandise (or inventory) was the key to staying in business.
Maybe someone should send them a memo.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They have the right to sell whatever they want for whatever they want. As long as it is legal and everything in that regards.

If you have an issue with their price, don't buy from them. It isn't like they are conning anyone. They just want the 100% trend price. Seems fair enough. If they start needing the money, then they will probably reduce their price.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe to them it is not a business. They probably just want to sell the pieces at full value to the right collector.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm often amazed by what some ebay sellers ask. There is one in particular that always makes me laugh so much so that when I see a ridiculously overpriced item, I don't even have to look at the seller's id to know it was listed my her.

But I assume the strategy is price high and hope you catch a fish. Bottom line is they can ask whatever they like but it's the buyer that set the price.

I have made a few purchases for what I consider reasonable prices and have lost some auctions when the price exceeds my threshold; it's all part of the game.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I auctioned a scarce date 19th century coin, a weak VF. It brought about $100 over any XF guide price, including NGC and PCGS.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadacoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen auctions that have started at .99 cents but asking $45.00 shipping to Canada. I agree with all statements above. The seller is going to ask whatever they want. If you don't agree with that price, you don't buy it or you privately send them an offer. That's worked for me on a couple of occasions.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be happy if sellers would post both sides of the coin they are selling. As far as prices go, coins that are priced according to the market will sell, and those that are not will not.

I think I know who the original poster is referring to. It does indeed seem like they are dwelling in the past, which is their privilege.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin is priced high but there's a Make an Offer option with it and you really want the coin what I find works is I'll include in my offer an url of a similar coin that's finished auction to help context its value. Usually the seller will take an offer if it's got a recent reference.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I'd be happy if sellers would post both sides of the coin they are selling."

Posting a second picture in a listing costs $0.15 and takes an extra 30 seconds or so (to take it and upload it). If you are listing 50 items, the time requirement is not trivial. Also, you may have to list something 10 times to sell it. If it is a $5 item, blowing $1.50 on second photo listing fees may not be a wise investment.
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Well according to the United States government we are doing better than before the 2009 crash, just look at the stock market... lol I know it's a joke!
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 Posted 01/15/2012  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice to see new Members on here. I mentioned the same thing on a passing thread not long ago. I have seen a couple of E-bay sellers for the past five years> Coinmart and Canadagem2010 continuously list high grade coins with few sales over $200.00.
I've heard that Dave Hunt who runs Coinmart has a lot of high end inventory which he is having a hard time moving. Especially, add to the fact that most of these expensive pieces were purchased prior to the 2009 market crash of coins and other "non essential goods". Can you imagine the loss some of these dealers have taken> OUCH!
I find that J & M also have high prices and don't seem to budge from their 85% "make an offer" minimum. Lately though, I see Colonial Acres has been softening their buy prices, I think owners, Todd and Kirk have seen the light.
I suppose the same will happen to the rest of us when it finally comes time to sell. We'll have to take the loss with a grain of salt!

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 Posted 01/15/2012  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a lot of these dealers sales of collectible coins to such as we is just icing on the cake.The volume of their bullion transactions is staggering.Their sales of RCM giftware and dealer to dealer sales also offset their need to sell at less than 80% of trends.There is no urgency for them to accept less at this time.
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 Posted 01/16/2012  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a seller who's learned! He's listed this coin for the past two years (E-bay # 110809416684)and has dropped the price several times. Look what it finally sold for?

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 Posted 01/16/2012  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like smallcentguy I think sellers should show pics of both sides of a coin. As much as I might want to purchase a coin I will not consider a purchase when I can only see half of an item.
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Just different selling strategies ... even if you post 5 coins very high and the sixth coin starts at $0.99. Bringing sellers to you is half the battle on E-Bay. Lately I find that at best its nothing more than turning over your inventory ... profit making is difficult in most cases.
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