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Valued Member
United States
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This is a prime example of why we do what we do! Great find!
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Valued Member
 United States
120 Posts |
Coop,
Thanks so much for replying to my latest post, and to the previous ones.
Okay, first off, the deteriorating die means the reverse devices are flattened out? And this is called a generic die cap?
Secondly, my coin was only struck once, but it was the rotation of the cap during the strike that made the doubled date?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1. Not a deteriorating die but rather a deteriorating die cap (a cent stuck on the die). For discussion on your cent I would say the dies were fine. But yes it's been hammered flat and so doesn't show the Memeroial anymore. The first cent struck has a very impressive Memorial reverse on the obverse side. Where's that bad boy  2. More strikes occurred flattening the cap to paper thin. Now "Struck through" starts where you see the obverse through the paper thin cap. The struck cents look normal except super mushy looking. 3. The cap is imprinted with the obverse and then rotates and your cent is struck through leaving the regular detail plus the details left on the cap from a prior strike. In the case of Adam's cent, rotation was happening on perhaps every strike leaving more and more imprints on the cap. Nice find! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As others have said, the 1972-D cent was struck once through a rotated, late-stage die cap. The presence of normally-oriented, incuse design elements is characteristic of such errors.
The floor of a late-stage die cap is very thin, and that thin metal has molded itself to the recesses of the die face. The metal filling each recess is slightly thicker than the portions of the die cap covering the field. That's because effective striking pressure is slightly lower in the recesses. When a cap shifts out of position, those thickened areas are driven into the next planchet, producing the normally-oriented incuse elements.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Edited by mikediamond
01/28/2012 09:58 am
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Valued Member
United States
318 Posts |
This has to be a one in a billion occurrence. I am amazed at the level of detail that you forensic coinvestigators can give about precisely how this error was made. You people are awesome, I have much to learn.
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Valued Member
United States
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I'd like to thank all the experts for the input and patience with me. I can say I actually understand how it was made.
I hate to ask the same question twice, but does anyone have any idea on its value, or how I might go about valuating it? Even a rough dollar range would be helpful.
I guess I need to know if I should be treating this coin differently than other coins in the (very low value) collection I am beginning. Should I have it graded and slabbed (I'm guessing not), or just keep it in a 2x2 in a coin box?
Thanks
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Errors are worth what people are willing to pay for them, and are the hardest sort of thing to value, partly because sometimes each one is unique. Some errors can be rare, but are not very interesting (modern rotated dies are pretty rare, but there are only a few collectors), but others are spectacular but relatively common (off-center strikes, for instance). Yours is both relatively rare, and spectacular.
If I had to wager a guess, I'd say it's certainly worth more than $50, maybe more than $100. But it's really worth what somebody is willing to pay for it. Maybe at auction it would fetch a lot less or a lot more.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Seems like Adam got something in the area for his coin. A capped die collector would jump for this one.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2740 Posts |
Value depends on the clarity and completeness of the incuse design. Since it's mainly the date that is affected, I'd guess it would be worth between $35 and $50.
Error coin writer and researcher.
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Valued Member
United States
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Well, I just wanted to write a quick note thanking everyone for their input. I'm amazed at how knowledgeable forum members are.
Thanks everyone for all your help.
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Valued Member
United States
120 Posts |
Oh, and since this is my first serious roll find, it's going into my collection. No plans on selling it.
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Moderator
 United States
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I would put it in a hard plastic holder.I put my "better"finds in them. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You don't see many coins like that for sale. |
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