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1972-D LMC

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 Posted 01/22/2012  9:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this while roll hunting today. I realize that this is not a double die, but what is it? A multiple strike? Is it of any value?

Thanks,

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 Posted 01/22/2012  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a genuine error coin but I cannot tell you exactly what caused it. What I can tell you is that you are very lucky, and that's worth something.
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 Posted 01/22/2012  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, coppercoins.com. I've been frequenting your website trying to learn about cents. Your comment really piques my curiosity. Can you speculate on what might have caused it? Have you seen a coin similar to this before?
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 Posted 01/23/2012  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...thats a pretty awesome find....I'm definitely gonna keep up with this thread....
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 Posted 01/23/2012  06:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find . I am sure Mike Diamond can tell you. Looks like some kind of a brockage or capped die kind of error.
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 Posted 01/23/2012  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking a rotating disentegrating die cap cause this. A coin similiar to this has been posted before:
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 Posted 01/23/2012  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John1,

Does Mike Diamond frequent this forum?
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 Posted 01/23/2012  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. Just hang in there.
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 Posted 01/23/2012  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful speciman
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 Posted 01/25/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, assuming that this is a rotating deteriorating die cap struck through error, can anyone suggest what it's value might be, or how I could go about determining its value? It's not like there are a bunch of these on ebay that I can compare it with.

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 Posted 01/25/2012  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buggs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! A very nice score, makes it all worth it. Congratz.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chickenboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have input on the value but that is cool coin and an awesome roll find.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty awesome find. You are so lucky to have found it!

When I first saw it, die cap first came to mind. I guess the die was loose to make it rotate and have the obverse design appear multiple times?
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More like the capped now generic coin was still in place on the front of the die, but now loosening and turning some.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn984 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could someone explain how this coin was actually created? I don't know a lot about error coins like this.

From what I've read so far, it sounds like something like this happened: Planchet is positioned on the die. The upper die strikes planchet, which then sticks to the obverse die. My coin enters. Obverse die, now a capped die, strikes through the stuck planchet, and makes an impression on my coin.

Now this is where I'm really fuzzy. My coin isn't properly ejected and is struck again by the capped die, but only after the capped coin rotated some? Then my coin is properly ejected?

When explaining this to me, don't be afraid to pretend your words are coming from a sock puppet as I am very new to coins.
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 Posted 01/27/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL Sock Puppet.

You've about got it. The capped die has struck several other coins before it strikes your coin. The reverse devices are not flattened out and this is now called a generic die cap as the reverse devices/Memorial is now flattened and the cap is starting to come loose from the die, but just rotating at first. You coin was struck while the cap had rotated a little making the imprint of the die struck through the cap now with two sets of dates on the cap. Then your coin is struck and shows two dates and the bust rotated a little. Eventually the cap is removed or the cap continues to disentigrate or eventually falls off. Then the coin start looking normal again. You've almost got it though.
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