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2001 Burnished Nickle?

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Is there any such animal out there to anyones knowledge? I have a weakly stuck nickle where the reverse is burnished looking and the obverse looks like a standard nickle. Is this from an uncirculated set?

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 Posted 01/22/2012  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
whoa, what's going on there? Obverse photo please!
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This is the reverse, its unappealing but it is what it is.

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Ooops, I meant obverse side, but believe it or not this is the other side of the coin.
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I can guess at two reasons for the difference in the quiality of each side:
1). This cain may have been a roll, and this was one of the end coins,
2.) The reverse die was replaced before the obverse one was, in the coining press.

I would favour the first of these two guesses. Only problem with that guess, however, is that usually coins are bagged these days, not rolled.
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The reverse side as you can see has very little wear, but compared to a similar quality coin this one does not have the strong features of other nickels. So of the two choices that you're offering here I would go with #2.



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I'm going to offer a third, during the cleaning between plating layers this coin was stuck against another one, what I see on teh reverse is the base steel planchet with a single flash layer of nickel. I think it's missing copper and then the finishing layer of nickel on the reverse.

If it wasn't adequately cleaned because it was stuck to another planchet the two layers I mentioned as missing would fall right off.

Just speculation based on physical appearance and brighter flashes at the rim.
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Sel, here in Canada, fresh from the mint fractional currency is shrink-wrapped in plastic still....I'm pretty sure.
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I have a couple of these as well. I can't find the pics right now so I'll have to re-shoot them.
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Well the edge (3rd face) does look nickel plated and is not any different than the obverse.

Plating process is a mystery to me, how do they plate thousands of coins at a time without this happening more often? The strike of the coin then might be perfect, with a deposit filling the lower points of the coins subject matter.

There is plenty to learn collecting coins, apparently it can get steep very fast. Thanks for your views and ponderings. Now what do I categorize this error coin as?

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@ikandiggit Since you have some what do you call them? Even if you can find just one picture to show us that would be great!
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Plating problems happen ALL the time Roger, it's not possible to make billions of coins and not have issues between process steps. The question is how they manifest once in hand. Some are really obvious to me because I've been electroplating metals for a long time, others are not so obvious - like this nickel. I'd pretty much need to have it in hand to diagnose it correctly, photos are good but there's so much more to figuring it out.
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@ikandiggit Since you have some what do you call them? Even if you can find just one picture to show us that would be great!



Unfortunately, I'm at work right now and most of my pics are on my other computer at home and not uploaded to photobucket. So pics will have to wait.

I'll have to look at the flip to see how it was identified. I'm not sure if mine are different on the obverse.
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Hi there. These 2001P nickels show up quite often. The one pictured below is in amazing condition considering it came out of a circulated roll. The photos aren't the greatest, but neither are my eyes.

For the most part, this shows up more significantly on the reverse. The strike appears to be weaker than a normal coin. From time to time the obverse will have that same 'satin' or 'matte' finish. Someone explained that after the PL production was complete, some of the dies went into circulation strike production. The dies weren't always matched, and were replaced when they had completely served their usefulness. I don't know enough about how that all works, but I do know that 2001P is the only modern nickel with this oddity I've seen in circulation.



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A circulated roll is where this one came from too, are these pics of your best coins with this oddity? They seem to have few blemishes considering their age and would have expected to see more scratches. I'll keep my eye out for some more of these since they show up every now and then.

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HI there. Yes, that's the best one I have. If not for that scatch on the obverse it would be in premium condition. I guess they are worth hanging onto, at least I'll be doing that next time around!
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