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I found this going through the cash deposit for my restaurant. I see maybe $200k a year in cash, and I find the occasional silver certificate (and 90% silver coin,) but I've never seen anything like this. I verified it has the security strip and water marks. It even passes the black light test. My first inclination was that it had been washed, but I've mistakenly washed (and bleached by mistake) money several times, and nothing turned out remotely close to this. Anyone have any ideas? Is it just a washed bill? Thanks for the advice!  Edit -- It's a 2006 series note. Edited by ianp
01/23/2012 1:20 pm
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A bit of clarification (if it's not obvious,) but I'm curious about the blue lettering and blue seal.
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It does look lightly bleached but I dunno for sure.
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I don't know but it looks neat. John1  |
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It does look rather neat :)
The picture is a terrible one (took it with my wife's iphone,) but the blue is similar, but more vibrant, in color to what you'd see on a nice UNC silver certificate.
I stuck it in my safe so that I could do some further investigation.
Thanks for the comments.
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Pillar of the Community
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perhaps they used the wrong colour ink in the printing process?
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Check the security thread with a loupe. Does it say USA TEN? Could be a phoney. I've read it's popular to take a $1, bleach it of the ink, then reprint a higher denomination over it.
If you handle cash, you know dern well what a $20 looks like from seeing them so often and could spot the slightest difference in a second. Those and $100's are the worst to fake because everybody knows them so well. $10's and $50's are where it's at for the wise counterfeiter.
Or it was just run through a dry cleaner or washing machine with some OxyClean.
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Check the security thread with a loupe. Does it say USA TEN? Could be a phoney. I've read it's popular to take a $1, bleach it of the ink, then reprint a higher denomination over it. In the old days, for sure. But that would not accomplish much today. One dollar notes have no security thread. If this note were a fake printed on a one the security thread will definitely not say USA TEN since there will be no security thread at all. Ianp indicates there IS a security strip, and although it could say USA FIVE, I don't really think there's a huge chance of that, considering everything else that would have to be recreated on this note. My first thought was that it had been exposed to some chemical that had reacted with the ink. I just have no idea what that might be! Nonetheless, it is an interesting looking note. Steve |
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A quick update on what I found last night -- I checked the security thread with my jewelers loupe, and it appears to be correct.
I took it a step further. This may be sacrilegious, so forgive me. I took another 2006 $10 I had and washed it in a small tub with some oxyclean to see if I could reproduce the same results. It looks normal -- no discoloring.
The saga continues, I'm confused as to what could have caused it.
Does anyone know of someone reputable in the Oklahoma City area who I could take the note to have it looked at in person?
It certainly passes the counterfeit test, to my untrained eye (watermarks, security strip, etc.,) so I do not believe that to be the case. I took it to the bank the day I found it and they thought it was neat, and agreed with my assessment that it's not counterfeit.
Thank you for all of the info!
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In the old days, for sure. But that would not accomplish much today. One dollar notes have no security thread. If this note were a fake printed on a one the security thread will definitely not say USA TEN since there will be no security thread at all. That's the point. Security threads not only have different lettering, but appear at different locations and glow different colors under ultra-violent light, for each denomination. |
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When "bleaching" a note is mentioned, we first think of Clorox or other household stuff. If it was that easy, raising denominations would be a lot bigger problem.
Yes, there is prolly much higher concentration stuff that will remove the ink, but not in your home cleaning arsenal.
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I took it a step further. This may be sacrilegious, so forgive me. I took another 2006 $10 I had and washed it in a small tub with some oxyclean to see if I could reproduce the same results. It looks normal -- no discoloring. Well I'm fresh out of ideas. Quote:
Security threads not only have different lettering, but appear at different locations and glow different colors under ultra-violent light, for each denomination. And I learned something. |
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I remember people were bleaching the $5 note and reprinting it to make it into a $100 note. That is why they had to redesign the $100 note and move and change the security thread. Great eyes for finding it. That is really interesting on the blue ink for the seal and serial #s. There are 24 dealers in your area: http://www.yellowpages.com/oklahoma...ers-suppliesTry someone that knows about coins/notes and not just bullion. I looked over a few and Edmond Coins looks like the best place to try first, since they belong to a few numismatic organizations. http://www.edmondcoins.com/ |
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Thanks for the info.
Edmond Coins is actually American Precious Metals Exchange.. I bought some silver bullion there once.
I'll give them a shot.
Thanks again!
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You're welcome Ian. Did you ask them? Just wondering on what they said.
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