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 Posted 01/16/2007  08:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nny_88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm not sure if this is a coin or not, I was asking my Graphic Design instructors and they suggested that it could quite possibly be an older coin. I just wanted to know if anyone could help me in finding out if this is in fact a coin or if it could be something else. Sorry about the rough shape it's in as well ignore the chain around it.

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 Posted 01/16/2007  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might be a Spanish cob. Welcome to coincommunity by the way
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 Posted 01/16/2007  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its an old piece of eight that has been cut> Nice find and welcome
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thank you both
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It looks like a Mexican 8 Reales cob coin. The reason I think it's Mexico mint is the M that is visible at the top left in the pic. Is it possible to photograph the other side?

I had some dealings with Dan Sedwick a while ago and he is the expert on these coins. I have his book and can't quite identify the exact design because there is also a lot of wear.

Many counterfeits and reproductions of cob coins exist. I would strongly suggest contacting Daniel through his website at http://www.sedwickcoins.com/ You can also look around his site and see if he has anything similar.

I'm not sure if Swamperbob and Sap are also experts on these cobs, but if they respond, I'd trust their judgement on this.
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 Posted 01/16/2007  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add houston_guy462004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Minted fromn 1572 - 1732, it is a "cob" piece from Mexico, value probably $200 or more. Check the Sedwick cite.
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I think I've seen this before but not in the holder. If so then it is a reproduction and worth only a few dollars. I believe the one I'm thinking of was done by Disney.

If you post a reverse picture I'll check for you.
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 Posted 01/17/2007  03:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I don't know about being an "expert" on cob coins, but here's my input.

It sure looks like a Spanish Mexico 8 reales - the only legible writing is the "M" mintmark and "8" denomination mark. I think I can make out the mintmaster's mark below the "M" - it looks more like a J than any of the other possible letters (D, P, G, L, R, or F). That would lock it down to the period 1706-1723. The actual date would normally be found about where the top clasp touches the coin, and the name of the king at the time would be found where the bottom clasps touch the coin - without these, it's impossible to date the coin any more accurately.

Is it genuine? That I can't say. As has been mentioned, these have been copied a lot, though a modern American-made copy should have "COPY" on it somewhere. I'd have thought a Disney copy would have "(c) Disney" on it somewhere, too. They seem to put that on all their stuff...

You could try weighing it - the coin itself should weigh about 27 grams; if the total item (with chain and loop) doesn't come up heavier than this, be suspicious. Still, even that's no guarantee. Some reproduction "pieces of eight" have been struck from real silver, even "real pirate silver" ingots retrieved from wrecks.

If genuine, examples of this coin where the date is unknowable are worth around $90, according to the Krause catalogue. Your coin is mounted, which will damage the coin and reduce the value to a collector, but it looks like whoever put that lop around it has gone to some effort not to damage the coin too much.
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