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Just got a small lot of semi-cleaned Romans today. This is one of the coins. It has a very nice bust but unfortunately the the obverse edge is nearly gone and the reverse is terrible, but I can make out a campgate (which would make it my first one of this type). Because of the condition of the coin I am not really expecting a full attribution, but if you guys can help out, I'd at least like to know which emperor is depicted, if an identification is at all possible.
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I'm guessing it may be 5th century, from the style of the bust.
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 Posted 01/24/2012  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
whats the weight and measurement?
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It is 12 mm at it's widest point. I can't get the weight because I have nothing to weigh it with.
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Mostly a guess but the bust looks like Theodosius II.
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Possibly. But for another coin, I had looked for Theo II campgates but didn't find any.
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I was not able to make out a campgate, but if you are able to see one than it could be Theodosius I, Arcadius, ect..
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Can coins of Theo I and Arcadius have simpler-style busts like this one?
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At this late stage of the empire and especially on these small AE4 coins the portaits tend to look the same.
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Any chance it could be Valentinian III? There are campgates listed for him in Helveticas.
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Not sure if it helps , but I think there may be 5-6 layers on the campgate.
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I certainly can't tell since the image is pretty dark. The coin is about as clean as it's going to get, I think. Nice obverse details.
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I lightened your image a bit to see if it would reveal any more of the reverse. I still can't make it out. I will go as far as saying that it could be Valentinian II, but Valentinian III bust a more crude than the earlier emperor's so I don't think it would be him.

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It's easier to see in hand, but here is what I am talking about:
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The orange "L" follows the side and bottom of the campgate, and the two arrows indicate where there are layers.

With regards to the bust, now that I've taken a better look at it, kind of reminds me of Honorius, I think.
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If there was only one more letter after the DN in the legend than we would have a better chance to determine who it is.
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I see what you're point out--my bet is on a campgate too.
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