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 Posted 01/26/2012  04:16 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Whilst I'm not entirely sure the Dansco 7070 item is a type album meant to cover all the USA circulation issues. I was thinking this afternoon it would be cool to have an Australian version of this album.

I've come up with a list of 90 coins which I would include. This is ignoring changes in the obverses of the coins and if the album was to include each change in obverse it would probably add another 20+ coins. This list also excludes mint mark differences.

Im going to have a go at putting the set together with what I have but I'm missing a couple. I don't have any crowns, nor a 1927 Canberra or 1934 Melbourne Florin.

Who thinks they could out together, or already has finished a full set such as this and is there anything I've missed? Maybe some of the commemorative 20c and 50c should be culled from the list and a limit of 5 commemoratives for each 20c and 50c should be included so people could choose their favourites.

I also dont own any Australian gold coins and have not included sovereigns/half sovereigns in this list as I dont know enough about them. Maybe someone has an opinion on which of those should be included?

1910-36 Florin
1910-36 Shilling
1910-36 Sixpence
1910-36 Threepence
1911-36 Penny
1911-39 Half Penny
1927 Canberra Florin
1934 Melbourne Florin
1937-38 Crown
1938-63 Florin
1938-63 Shilling
1938-63 Sixpence
1938-63 Threepence
1938-64 Penny
1939-64 Half Penny
1951 Federation Florin
1954 Royal Visit Florin
1966-1991 1c
1966-1990 2c
1966-Present 10c
1966-Present Platypus 20c
1966 Wavy 20c
1995 UN 20c
2001 Don Bradman 20c
9x 2001 Federation State 20c
2003 Volunteers 20c
2005 WW2 60th Ann 20c
2010 ATO 20c
2011 Royal Wedding 20c
2011 Women's Day 20c
2011 Volunteers 20c
1966 50c
1969-Present CoA 50c
1970 Cpt Cook 50c
1977 Queen's Jubilee 50c
1979 CoA (Double Bar)
1980 CoA (Double Bar)
1981 Royal Wedding 50c
1982 Commonwealth Games 50c
1988 First Fleet 50c
1991 Rams Head 50c
1994 Year of the Family 50c
1995 Weary Dunlop 50c
1998 Bass and Flinders 50c
2000 Millennium 50c
2000 Millennium 50c (incuse)
2000 Royal Visit 50c
2001 Centenary of Federation CoA
9x 2001 Federation States 50c
2002 Year of the Outback 50c
2003 Australia's Volunteers 50c
2004 Student Design 50c
2005 WW2 60th Ann 50c
2005 Student Design 50c
2010 Australia Day 50c
1984-Present $1
1986 Year of Peace $1
1988 First Fleet $1
1993 Landcare $1
1996 Henry Parkes $1
1997 Sir C.K Smith $1
1999 Year of Older Persons $1
2001 Federation $1
2001 Volunteer $1
2002 Year of the Outback $1
2003 Volunteer $1
2003 Women's Suffrage $1
2005 WW2 60th Ann $1
2007 APEC $1
2008 Scouting $1
2009 Aged Pension $1
2010 Girl Guides $1
2011 CHOGM $1
1988-Present $2

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 Posted 01/26/2012  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry to go off topic but did you just reach a enworb, well done mate
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thanks ausjack
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 Posted 01/26/2012  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
enworb: Examined the list with interest.

Decades ago, I built an Australian pre decimal type set, made with the rarest date for type (no 1930 penny). I also built an Australian gold type set, all Sydney Mint and including the Adelaide Pound. Had about 100 nice ancients as well, including some gold. Averge grade would have been VF for the Australian coins.

Sorry no decimals.

Sold the lot on consignment to raise deposit for our first house.

These days my Australian collection is interesting, but not so much as yours. I have tended concentate more on World coins.
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 Posted 01/26/2012  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought you may have been one of the people capable sel. I also thought you might be the person to supply info on the sovereigns. Could you do a short list of what would need to be included in an Aus gold type set?
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 Posted 01/26/2012  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wasn't the sixpence reverse unchanged from 1910 to 1963? And is 5c missing? Also, maybe one double bar 50c is enough for a type set. Very comprehensive though (and unfortunately incomplete on my end).
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The sixpence design was unchanged. Bit of a slip up. Also don't know how I left out 5c.
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My Australian gold type set (when I owned it), complete for all types, was simple enough.

The Half Soverigns, all Sydney Mint, consisted of:
1). Sydney Mint type 1 obv. 1856, good fine
2.) Sydney Mint type 2 obv., 1859, EF, with a tiny dig below the date
3.) Young head shield rev., good VF
4.) Jubilee head shield rev., EF
5.) Veiled head, Unc.
6.) Edward V11, Unc.
7.) George V, Unc.

The sovereigns:
1.) Adelaide Pound 1852, good F / VF
2.) Sydney Mint type 1, 1855, good F
3.) Sydney Mint type 2, 1868, VF
4.) Young Head Shield, EF
5.) Young Head St. George, EF
6.) Jubilee Head, EF
7.) Veiled Head, Unc.
8.) Edward V11, Unc.
9.) George V type 1, Unc.
10) George V type 2, 1931, Unc.

Where the dates are not shown, I now cannot remember them, but they were not scarce dates.

The design of the obverse of the Sydney Mint Soverigns and Half Sovereigns type 2 is interesting. Although the design of the head detail is similar to other Empire coins of the time, it is not the same.
Exclusive to Sydney Mint coins 1857 to 1870, Victoria wore a garland of Banksia leaves on her head. The nearest stylistic equivalent would be the 2 dollar gold coins of Newfoundland, but she does not have a Banksia garland; it is some other plant species.

I started with the hardest coin of all to obtain, the 1852 Adelaide Pound. I bought this coin for myself way back on my 21st birthday, with money I received.

The Melbourne Centenary florin was near to Gem Unc., and came with the Foy and Gibson bag. This coin had a tiny flan flaw in it.
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Australian coins are world coins for me. :-D

Thank you for posting the list. I have slowly working on my Australian collection so I find this list helpful. There is way more mondern stuff than I expected to be from your list. But I haven't got that far yet, I am still working on the pre-dec coinage.
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 Posted 01/26/2012  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO the predecimal is much more interesting so a good place to start. There is too many commemoratives now a days for my liking.
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If it's a "type set", then I would include the different monarchs / portraits as different types. I would also add the "faithless" QEII predecimal coins as separate types. That would triple the size of the non-commemorative list, I think.

However, if it's a "circulation" type set, I wouldn't include the 1934/5 florin; they were NCLT.

Nor, personally, would I include minor varieties like the wavy 20 cents, double-bar 50 cents and incuse-flag 50 cents, nor mint errors like the 2000 $1 mule or 1916 halfpenny mule.
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