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Valued Member
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Hi all... I'm new here, and I know very little about coins, grading, cleaning, etc. I'm a detectorist, and today I dug a very nice 1891 Seated Liberty quarter. It's the first coin I dug that I think may have any appreciable value, but I am in no way knowledgeable about grading. I checked my Photograde book, and my very amateur opinion would put this coin VF-40 or maybe a bit higher, maybe just under AU? I don't know, but I'd love your opinions/critiques of this coin. I also would like to know what, along with a possible "grade," the approximate value of the coin might be, and finally, how (if at all) would you suggest I clean it? I did nothing but rinse it in water up to this point, as I did not want to do any "micro-scratch" damage. Beyond this, I'm clueless. Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Steve
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Valued Member
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OK, my pictures didn't work, not sure why...I'll try again...   There...this should work. Sorry all for the confusion. Any opinions would be most welcome -- possible grade, possible value, and advice on cleaning (if it should be cleaned at all...) Thanks! Steve
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks pretty close to an EF45 grade to me, you defintely don't want to mess with cleaning it, that will only make it worth less.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: you defintely don't want to mess with cleaning it 
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Valued Member
 United States
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OK -- No cleaning! :) Got it.
I have a vote for EF-45...any others?
Steve
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think this would definitely make EF-45. There's possibly even a chance at an AU-50 depending on the graders feeling that day. Looks like her head, her chest, and the eagles left wing took the brunt of the wear. The claws and the eagles chest look very nice which may get you into AU territory. Just my opinion is all.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1}  Steve 2} Looks great for a "dug" coin. I also agree with EF-45 & see that you have picked up on the "no cleaning" suggestions. As to value, my guesstimate is $80-100.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice find. I would think AU50 and probably worth at least $100.
Good luck hunting.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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That's a remarkable coin to have come up out of the ground in such high grade condition. I would agree with others, definitely in the 'XF' range. Congrats on the rescue!
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Valued Member
 United States
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Well, thank you very much, folks. Your opinions are much appreciated. I thought my own uneducated, amateur guess of EF-40 or a bit higher may have been a conservative, decent guess; seems like the consensus here may be XF-45 to possibly AU-50.
I was quite surprised to see that coin look that good...it was obviously dropped not long after it was minted (within the year) -- and I was real lucky to find it! It was almost 10" deep, and completely on edge...surprised I even heard it. Like I say, I have dug many silver coins, but none that I figure are worth much more than "melt" value. This is the first one I thought may have had some numismatic value; $80 to $100 is more than I expected (I was thinking $50 or $60).
Thanks all!
One other question; what is the process for getting a coin "graded;" I know in the metal detecting community, everyone says go ANACS because the others usually won't grade a "dug" coin -- they will only certify that it is genuine. Agree, in this case? Disagree? What would you all suggest I do -- don't have it graded? Have it graded? By any group in particular? What would the cost be to have it graded? I simply don't know...this is a new thing for me.
Sorry for the barrage of questions, but I'm interested in learning and I know you all have this knowledge, whereas I am clueless. If this sort of dig becomes a "habit" (it won't!), I may have to start learning a bit more about coins themselves, and not just how to find them!
Thanks so much (and thanks for the welcome, jeffrose)!
Steve
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Pillar of the Community
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I think XF45 is a good call on thins. Nice!
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 , sgoss66! I'd agree with: - xf
- don't clean it. It already looks cleaned from its time in the ground
- don't waste the money on slobbing
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Valued Member
 United States
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thanks biggfredd...
I was kind of thinking the same thing on the grade/slab. Coin value not high enough to spend the money, was my thought...
Any other comments on -- for future reference, if ANACS would be likely (as I have heard) to give a more "fair" or "unbiased" (for lack of better words) grading on a "dug" coin?
Thanks,
Steve
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: .it was obviously dropped not long after it was minted (within the year) I do not metal detect so forgive me if this is wrong, but my opinion was the other way around, that this coin hadn't been in the ground very long because of the condition of the coin. I would think a coin that has been in the ground a 100 years would have all kinds of damage from being in the ground that long. I was thinking it was once in someones collection and they may have been carrying it somewhere and lost it within the past 10-15 years
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Quote: I would think a coin that has been in the ground a 100 years would have all kinds of damage from being in the ground that long Copper or steel, yes; silver and gold, no.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Bryan1315 --
biggfredd is right...gold and silver, being "noble" metals/precious metals, are very resistant (by definition) to environmental damage/corrosion, etc. Many silver coins I dig are in outstanding condition, from a "metal" perspective, it's just that they are very worn from circulation.
Copper, while fairly resistant to corrosion, etc., is NOT as resistant as "noble" metals (and is thus not considered a "noble" metal, but one of the "base" metals, along with iron, etc.) Thus -- 100-year old copper coins often show some corrosion/damage, while silver and gold coins normally will not. Sometimes, silver coins may come out a bit "tarnished," but in general they come out of the ground looking really good.
Finally, the depth that I found this coin at was anomalous for a more "recently dropped" coin; recently-dropped coins in this area tend to be 2-3" deep; old (100-years or so) coins in the place I was hunting are generally 6-8" deep; this coin, at 9 1/2 inches, was almost definitely dropped over 100 years ago -- likely in the year it was minted...
Steve
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