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 Posted 01/26/2012  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Augusti? I thought it was Augustae Or can both terms be used?
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Yes, I think it does. Although, JW wanted to know what the star was for and I gave my opinion in basic format. I am still learning what many of the legends mean.
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Same here. I need to brush up on a lot of the legends. I only recently started too (April of last year, but my collection really kicked off around August/September).
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Great coins JW; as usual!:) I like the desert patinas best!
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I've added another "campgate" to this collection. I just couldn't help myself. It's my first campgate from Licinius II. Heraclea RIC VII 36:

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That's another nice camp gate but with no star. Nice lighter sand patina.

I was going to pick up a Licinius II campgate coin, but some other deals came up recently. lol
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Valiant Knight: You have the right idea on the legends but abbreviations are not declined so we have to watch our assumptions. AVG can be Augustus (one male ruler) Augusta (one female ruler) or any case (of one ruler of any gender). AVGG can be nominative AVGVSTI (more than one male ruler) or even one Augustus and one Augusta on rare occasion but it can be genitive Augustorum (of more than one ruler). Many reverses will not be nominative but either genitive or dative (of the foresight, dedicated to the foresight). I'm not terribly sure we should be too strict on such things since many of the coins date centuries after the grammar rules of Cicero you were taught in Latin class and such things changed over time and across the huge empire. The only other abbreviation trick to watch out for is AVGGG meaning three or more rulers are being noted in the later part of the 3rd century but this concept was dropped by the time it came up again in the 4th century so we can't get hardline expecting this to be significant.
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