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Nice group!  I especially like how the sand patina brings out the campgate. Does anyone know the significance of the star/sun above the gate? |
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Pillar of the Community
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I like seeing groups like this.
This is a nice set JW.
Now I'm curious about the star too.
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Pillar of the Community
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all have 2 or 4 turrets so they are from western mints nice set of campgates JW
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I really like the Constantine busts on these coins (like your first one), I only have a couple of them and bought them for that reason alone. I would have to say I like the two sandy ones the best Quote:
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I'm not sure which one I like the best, although I do like campgates. Is there any particular reason why you started collecting campgates recently?
I only have one so far but planning on getting one more in a few weeks that's on a coin that's filling a emperor slot in my collection.
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Is there any particular reason why you started collecting campgates recently? No, no particular reason. And, in fact, I didn't realize I had so many campgate coins. I do not know what the star represents, but the "turrets" are thought to be signaling towers, much like the the American Indians used smoke signals. I've even seen where they been described as "weber Kettle grills". I would be very interested in the answer to the question about the star. |
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This is only speculation on my part.
I think the star is meant as symbolism as a bright light source, to light the way so to speak. As a protective light.
PROVIDEN-TIA CAESS. Providence of the Caesars.
I think of these campgate coins more as a watch tower. I remember watching a show on PBS about ancient towers, many of them were square, such as the way these look on the coin. Round cylinder towers was a later invention, but I ain't sure if those types of towers were in ancient Rome or not.
So, you have a watch tower, two turrets and a star. Providence meaning under the care of God, or spiritual power. So, back then the Caesars are indeed a power unto themselves. More or less, protection of the Caesars to the people.
Only way you know for sure is go back in time and ask them what they meant. lol
Edited by Gil-galad
01/26/2012 2:49 pm
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They are all very nice coin. I particularly like the 4th one with the four turrets. They are harder to come by the the two turrets.
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice group. I recently got my first but the emperor is unidentifiable and the reverse is terrible, could barely make out the campgate.
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The first three and the fifth have reverse legends of: PROVIDENTIAE AVGG. The one with four turrets has a different reverse legend: VIRTVS AVGG. The Constantine II and Constantius II coins have reverse legends of PROVIDENTIA CAESS. So I'm not sure your analysis hold up.
I like them all obviously, and to me the two sand patina coins are beautiful. But my favorite busts are the third and fourth Constantine I coins. They both display the great "Roman nose" I can well image Constantine might have had. If it wasn't for the "pink" spot on the reverse, the third coin would probably be my favorite.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it's pretty much about the same with the exception of the VIRTVS AVGG. AVG(G) being Augusta. Providence of the Augusta(s).
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Pillar of the Community
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AVGG being two Augusta. Or perhaps Augusti plural.
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Pillar of the Community
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Like I said, it's just speculation and I am a novice, just started in November of last year. Beginning student.
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Pillar of the Community
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My fault, it is Augustus. Augusta is the female form.
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I know "VIRTVS AVGG" means "valor of the two emperors", but "PROVIDENTIAE AVGG" means "foresight of the two emperors", right?
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Posted 01/26/2012 1:42 pm
