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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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*goes and Googles "Numismedia"*
There's a site I ought to bookmark!
Again, looks to be $2 over book value.
The question I must ask my self, then, is if I'm OK with paying that much more than what it's worth to get my first big name, big, old coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 And as for Mercury dimes they are selling almost everywhere for $2.50 up to $3.00 each for just plain, ordinary, well worn ones so those prices you mentioned are OK.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Numismedia tips: - Used to be, only G-MS60 prices were free, now you can see G-MS70
- To look up uncirculated grades for a series you're on, click the MS61-MS70 link in the upper left
- To compare all grades for a specific date, click on the date
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Valued Member
United States
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This is so very simple. If you think the price is too high then go buy somewhere else. I think you have a nice buying opportunity. I have $30 coins that I enjoy owning as much or more than some I paid $1000s for. Buy what pleases you within the budget you have to work with. I bet a lot of collectors who have more experience than I would say that too. Personally I would feel lucky to have a brick and mortar coin dealer local to me. Id be glad that my local dealer is not dumb enough to sell coins for less than value. If he goes out of business you can deal with long distance sellers and guess and hope and maybe cry when the deal goes wrong. You might pay a little more at the local store but you can hold the coin in your hand before you negotiate for it. The more coins you buy from him (even cheap ones) the more he will be inclined to give you a little price break once in a while. Id be in that store buying a coin each weekend from the junk bin just for fun and fellowship. You wont be known as a big spender but after a while the dealer will know you and take you as a serious coin guy! Give the local coin dealers a break they are trying to run a business. DONT  about coins in the junk bin! Not every dealer has one! Those are made available so everyone can afford a coin not just the wealthy. The dealer only makes minimal if any profit from individual coin junk sales. Its a customer good will gesture, not a profit center. (8-)
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Valued Member
United States
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Goldfinger is exactly right. Worrying about a single greenback differential in price is more the mindset of an investor than a collector. Nickel and diming your local coin dealer over a dollar or two will only cost you later. I am fortunate enough to have a local guy with whom I have developed a great relationship over the years. As a result, when I go in he automatically will round up his nicer coins and allow me first shot at them. I've picked up some great coins as a result and he's more than fair as am I. I am truely appreciative of his personal service as I know he appreciates my business.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Good points, all of them.
I just have to set aside the cash to buy all three, which means over $65 if I were inclined to buy the uncirculated Morgan and the other two in a grade higher that what he's deemed junk.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I knew a vest pocket dealer who always gave me first shot. He had local dealers, but we could go through a few hundred coins in 15 minutes, and I'd pass, play or hold for dealing. After finishing the pass/play stuff, we'd go through the negotiables, and he already had a good idea what he'd make on the ones I agreed to buy, and would deal accordingly. Then we'd break for pizza.
One of the locals was two brothers who didn't feel right unless they negotiated prices on. every. single. coin. This didn't result in a big net difference, but it sure wore everyone out, and left no time for pizza.
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Valued Member
United States
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I can't help but reiterate that having a good relationship with your local dealer will serve you well in the long run.
My guy has saved my bacon on a couple counterfeit coins bought online and has sold me the nicest uncirculated sets I have in my collection for a little more than half what he could piece out and sell separately. If I didn't have the relationship with the guy, I'd never have had the opportunity to buy any of them.
If you like the coins and they fit within your budget, don't worry about an extra dollar here or there. Then when it's time to make a more expensive acquisition ... you'll have someone who knows you, appreciates your fairness in doing business and will work on your behalf.
In a country which now seems to think everything should be free ... the small timers will never learn that it's not making a buck off somebody today, but developing relationships that will allow you to better your financial position now and in the future.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: Worrying about a single greenback differential in price is more the mindset of an investor than a collector. Nickel and diming your local coin dealer over a dollar or two will only cost you later Saving a buck or two on a ASE, especially if you take several minutes to decide, simply gets you the reputation as a tightwad. The same negotiation on a roll of them, or better yet a couple hundred, makes sense, because there's some genuine savings involved, and it's a more significant transaction for the seller.
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Pillar of the Community
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For the record, part of the reason I started this thread was to figure out if I should START haggling hard at this place. Just doing my homework before my third purchase at this place.
Looks like I ought not haggle very much. It also looks like it would be in my better interest to take it slow and buy one of those wanted coins at a time, rather than all at once, even if I HAVE the cash saved up to buy all of them at once.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: For the record, part of the reason I started this thread was to figure out if I should START haggling hard at this place. Just doing my homework before my third purchase at this place.
Looks like I ought not haggle very much. It also looks like it would be in my better interest to take it slow and buy one of those wanted coins at a time, rather than all at once, even if I HAVE the cash saved up to buy all of them at once. That too could be a problem. There are many people that really love to haggle prices. I don't mean just buyers, but sellers too. For example an old Jewish belief on sales is you must make the first sale of the day to anyone that starts the purchase thing. And if that means lowering the prices, so be it. At a place that used to be in Chicago called Maxwell Street, everyone was supposed to haggle everything. It was almost a requirement. There was a special on TV once about that place. If you should offer what was asked, you were looked at as if you were an alien. At many flea markets some seller feel bad if you don't argue prices. At every coin show I go to dealers always say how the raise their prices due to the customers will just haggle down anything they ask anyway. I purposely carry large quantites of $1 bills so I can say I'll give you $7 for that since that's all I have. Can't do that they pull out a $10. One thing about haggling over a price is even if you don't win, you'll be remembered. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. It's all in fun you know.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Dealer had a plate marked $10. Buyer asked his best price, he said $7. Buyer went on and on about how it wasn't worth $7, he'd give him $5.
Dealer got fed up, picked up the plate and smashed it on the edge of the table.
"Here, now it's $5".
Buyer threw a fit, "I'd have paid $7!"
"I gave you that chance!"
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Australia
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Valued Member
United States
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HAHA....good one Big Fred. I, personally, will not haggle over a couple of bucks on a single item at my local shop. They have a lot of expenses related to running a business. Now I am not saying I like to pay top dollar or overpay for a coin but I would rather wait and haggle a bit on higher priced coins. I feel if you don't give a dealer grief over small purchases he, or she, will be more willing to give you a better deal when it counts and you are spending more $.
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Valued Member
United States
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My opinion is that at least one third the fun of coin collecting is searching for and negotiating a bargain. On ebay I make offers (very low, but not impossible) on everything just for fun. As for negotiating at the coin store I find that buying more than one item gets you the right to save a few dollars. Try to wait until you can buy 3 coins at once and you will have no problem asking for a few dollars off and the dealer should have no problem obliging you :)
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