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New Member
United States
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I have decided to purchase a safe to house my collection. Any recommendations as far as the best alternatives.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You get what you pay for, so it depends on your budget, and remember any safe can be broken into with enough time and the right tools.
I would say the heavier the better, the more door bolts the better (make sure the bolts are on the top, bottom and both sides of the interior door) and go with a reliable name in safes.
And the number one rule; Bolt the safe to the floor! The easiest way to steal a safe is to pick it up and take it out of a house whether it be by hand or hand truck. Actually, the number one rule is DO NOT TELL ANYONE about your safe! No one.
And for coins, moisture control is key so make sure to put in some sort of moisture absorbing silica product.
Edited by mitchhailey 02/12/2012 3:54 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
search ccf or youtube for "safe dynamite" for some great videos.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
9150 Posts |
I just bought one, from Stack-On, It's fire proof rated for 1400 F for 30 min. and water resistent, bolts to the floor and has 7 locking bolts and 3 dead bolts. Google them they have all kinds.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1490 Posts |
I personally went with the Heritage Tradition. Its fire rated for 95 minutes at 1350 degrees, weighs about 1200 lbs and has 7 gauge thick side walls. It also has 16 bolts in total.
A lot of safes have 11 and 12 gauge side walls that can be breached rather easily.
Plus the Heritage line is made in America. Grace Idaho to be exact.
Bottom line get the best you can find for your budget.
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Valued Member
United States
137 Posts |
Mine is a Liberty Gun Safe and I love it. Also made in the USA. Fire rated at 1400 degrees for I believe 90 minutes. One VERY important thing to do is get one larger than you think you need. I did not listen to the salesman and mine is now full and not at all organized! Expecially after the wife started putting things in it!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
.....and SHOP around. There is quite bit of price difference in the exact same model of safes.
Also, safe companies make safes for rebranding for resale by others. For instance, my Canon brand safe, being sold rebranded for Cabelas...has a $500 difference in price. So, know what you are buying to save some cash.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Great topic to do a Search for with the Search tab. You should find a lot of stories about them.
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New Member
United States
17 Posts |
Best bet is a safety deposit box at a local bank. I have a small one for 30.00 per year. Only problem is that one cannot hold silver, gold etc. in one's hand. But when I look in mine I just say WOW! Very safe storage. For a house safe I would say heavy - heavy.
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
 , gallienus267!
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New Member
United States
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I just went through extensive research for a safe to store my coins. I looked at pretty much every major and minor option out there. I talked to pros, I looked at videos, I read a ton of articles. Since most of my coins are slabbed I knew I needed more than a "fire" safe because plastic melts at ~200° and fire safes can get 350° inside. "Media" safes can protect plastic, but they weigh a ton, cost a fortune and are very small inside. So I decided my best option was a burglary safe with a "media" box inside. After looking at several B-Rated safes from AmSec, Cobalt, Hollon, Gardall and others, I changed direction slightly when I came across the Stack-On P-019-MB-E Premier Executive Safe. It's UL-RSC rated, UL fire-rated, has a Sargent & Greenleaf electronic lock, fits perfectly in the closet I wanted to put it in, is only $388 shipped and could fit a Honeywell 1102 fire chest inside with room to spare. It's not what I thought a Stack-On safe would be (chintzy). I'm very happy with it.
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Forum Kid
Canada
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Here is my safe, I just put it up today! it is used! and I still have to put the doors on! Make sure your safe is fireproof and no moisture can't get in!   this safe weighs over 2500 pounds and I decided I did not want to bolt it down. 
Edited by Vancouver IslandCoinKid 11/09/2014 5:38 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Four suggestions: 1. Get a very small safe only, and only store your most valuable coins in it. Less expenditure is needed to buy it. The majority of your collection may be out of the safe, but if you are continually referring to your collection as a working collection (as I do), then a large safe can be a bit of an annoyance, with all of your collection stored in it. Added advantages are that it takes up less space, and is easier to hide. 2. To prevent a very small safe from being carried, fill the bottom of it with lead(Pb) blocks. MY safe has 90 kilograms of lead in it. Another alternative is to internally bolt it to the floor. I have done both.
3. Put a small small safe on the floor, inside a cupboard. Hide it with a simple corrugated cardboard box over it, if someone sees you open the cupboard for reasons other than to get at the safe.
4. Put some small dimples near the lock or hinges of the door, as start ponts for a drill. This is an important thing to do, if the lock fails shut. You might loose the safe, but at least you can recover the contents, without damage.
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Valued Member
United States
115 Posts |
You can have a giant safe and put in a smaller safe with another code and a even small one inside that one. Well anyhow, just annoy the robber as much as you can!
Also maybe make a decoy like a safe in an obvious place and put some cheap coins (100-200 dollars) inside.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
Hmmm, I wouldn't go for the "heaviest" safe. I'd go with the one with the thickest walls. Bolt it to the floor or wall. If you can hook up your safe to a security company that's double the safety measure. Also, run away from safes that have the hinges on the outside completely exposed! Ell-Oh-Ell!
Edited by Libertad 11/10/2014 8:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hinges on the outside, are not necessarily bad. Really depends on the rest of the safe and how many/location of the locking lugs are internal....
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