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New Member
United States
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Newbie here. Earlier I opened a roll from the U.S.Mint of Sacagawea coins I had been saving for a rainy day. They were all 2000 P. I think I have 3 more rolls, unopened. Started looking at them and found 15 of them had a couple die cracks and multiple errors, all in the same place. Some of the errors looked like they were progressing.
The rest of them looked like they may have some errors on them also with a couple that looked normal..?
So I went ahead and put them in folders wondering what to do next. I am almost an old'un and my wife and I are disabled, so due to not having much money to do anything with the coins I am seeking advice on what to do next that doesn't cost much money. On the other hand if you think the coins are not worth that much and I am dreaming ...please let me know.
Any ideas on the next step would be appreciated.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If they were together in the same roll, it's entirely possible some were from the same sets of dies, and it would be possible for you to see a progression of errors like that. Generally minor errors like die cracks are not worth anything, but if they're major, or if you have an interesting set that shows the progression they can be worth more. Please post pictures if possible.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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and please post some photos if you can. Either that or describe them in great detail. Like the size (length and kind of about how wide) of the crack and the position on the coin. Most aren't worth much over face, if any though. Especially the really minor ones. They are interesting to find. If you have any with a large die chip or Cud, they might be worth saving, but still they aren't worth much over face value on them. And only handle the coins by the edges. Otherwise, finger prints and smudges will eventually appear on the obverse/reverse and they'll lose any premium. Keep them in BU condition, if you are going to save them. You can get mylar flips to store them in. They are the cheapest and allow you to look at the coin well without really handling the physical coin. |
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Egypt
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United States
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Welcome to the Forum. There is a wealth of information on here.
To get an accurate assesment you are going to want to post pictures. The closer and more clear the better. Alot of people won't even make educated decision on a coin if their are no pictures.
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New Member
 United States
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Tried pictures with cell phone...not good. Will try again later.
On my AT&T cell phone I use Windows Live Skydrive to manage my pictures and provide links to whomever I need to. If I get some good pictures does anyone know if I can use the skydrive.live.com link to my pictures, or do I have to use Flickr?
I understand most of the time a lot of the defects-errors-varieties are not worth much, but, I am half way into my second of four rolls and these are very interesting ...at least to me...
Here is a description of what I have found so far:
Very few, only a couple with no errors, or I haven't noticed them yet.
2000P Obverse
1. The E in states and the ER in America (along with the whole inscription that has a slight but noticable doubling) has a look like trying to stamp a same size "D" or "O" onto the letters.
2. Doubled dies in the date and mint mark, some progressively worse.
3. When you see a bunch of simi-short scratches in front of her neck, you will almost always have the baby's face looking like it is slipping away from her neck. Also the back of her hair will have semi short scratches-rays from above God (but not to) down to Trust and progressivrly going down to the baby's head, all pointing in a southwest direction.
Reverse
1. DD on E Pluribus Unum
2. DD on United States of America
3. When you see the scratches on her neck on the obverse, you will almost always see a die crack? on the "F" in "OF" and "E" in "ONE". They start off (I think) with the F. It starts at the rim edge, through the top left of the F to center right of the middle of the F.
Then the "E" shows up cracked from the rim to the bottom right of the E. Then the crack in the E gets progressively more pronunced than the F as I look at and back at more coins. The crack in E then goes from the rim to the bottom right tip of the arm to the bottom of the top right arm of the E. The crack between the tips of the E goes away (fills in?) and then shows up still staying from rim to bottom right of the E, then starts on the center bottom of the top arm going down a littl bit, and if I remember right it joins up with the original crack.
I am tired and neeeed pictures to keep track and put in order. My notes leave a lot to be desired.
There were about 15 coins with most all of the above on them in the first roll with the rest having parts of the above with only a few looking o/k.
As I said I am half way into the second roll and showing the same. Sure would be neat to have the time and equipment to open and photograph the rest of this roll and the other two rolls!
Please excuse me for being long winded, but, this is interesting! Even if they are not worth much, it is nice daydreaming that they are....
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New Member
United States
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I see to start with that I posted in the wrong area. I should have gone down another link to the error part of modern coins, thought I was where I was supposed to be.....how do you spell "assume".....!? Here is the best, so far, pictures with my cell phone. Hopefully I can get a digital camera soon! Also in the description in my last post I forgot to add in : obverse, her eyebrow on some or multiple coins have more and less hair or scratches or whatever you would call it on one or both eyebrows...strange..    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What in the picture do you believe is an error? The mark on her cheek is just a contact mark.
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New Member
United States
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Guess I will have to wait until I get a good camera. All the errors I was talking about is in the previous post. There are a lot of interesting errors, cracks, and or varieties that just does not show up with these cell phone pictures. And yes that is probably a handling mark or something on her cheek as these coins came directly from the mint and I have just opened the rolls. Very carefully too. So any marks or scratches were done at the mint.
Whenever I get a good camera I will re-post with pictures and descriptions.
Thank you for the reply.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I had a couple of rolls showing a die chip progression on them. I found several examples and made a GIF image to show how it progressed. The coins I tossed back into the roll. Something interesting to look at, but not real collectable to me.  The rest of the OBW rolls I would sell off and mention the die crack progression in the auction. |
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New Member
United States
15 Posts |
Coop
I really like the way you did that. The alignment setup must have been interesting!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
I left the orginal image and transfered the layers. Just seem the right thing to do with the 5 images.
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New Member
United States
15 Posts |
Saw the GG artist initials on the coins and remembered something about it. Just found the story.
So out of 760,000,000 coins only 5,000 had GG for the artist?
I have three rolls and can't find the fourth, might have cashed them in.....
All three rolls are the GG.
The third roll had few if any errors like the first two.
Sure wish I could post a good picture of the errors so I might know if I have something here!
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New Member
United States
15 Posts |
Ment to say the third roll didn't have errors "unlike" the first two rolls that did have the errors.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:
Saw the GG artist initials on the coins and remembered something about it. Just found the story.
So out of 760,000,000 coins only 5,000 had GG for the artist? 5,000 coins were burnished to give them a special finish and those coins were given to the designer. ALL of the coins from 2000 to today have her initials on them. |
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Posted 02/16/2012 05:41 am
