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I'd like to address the topic of when a collection is "complete."
For my own purpose(s), a set is "complete" when it contains an example of every date and mint which entered circulation as a working coin.
Proofs do not count, by this criterion.
Nor do "errors."
Nor do experimental pieces.

I'll use a Greysheet to help.

1) Indian Head cents.
Do you really need to include the 1856, 58/57 and 69/69 to call your collection complete? I say no.

2) Lincoln Cents of the Wheat design.
Retract your claws, folks, I consider this to be classic!
The 1922 "plain"*, 44D/S and the 1955/1955, while dandy variations which have caught the eye of collectors, are not needed to make your set complete.

*I have never forgiven Dansco for including a hole for this
"variety" and nothing more.

3) Liberty nickels.
35 regular issues. 35 examples make the set complete.
RELIEF!
Although I added a gold plated 1883 "no cents" as an historic curiosity.

4) Buffalo nickels.
Tough enough without chasing down examples of the 16/16 and 18/17D. 1937-D 3-legged? Give me a break! Not needed.

5) Barber dimes.
My set is complete but not finished.
It will NEVER be finished.
The 1894-S is NOT NEEDED!

6) Mercury dimes.
I say skip the 42/41 and 42/41D. Nice, but not needed.

7) Barber quarters.
Again, no varieties to deal with.

8) Standing Liberty quarters.
1918/1917S? I'd take a 1916 any day!

9) 10) and 11) The Halves.
Barber, Walking Liberty and Franklin.
Easy. No major varieties to deal with.

My point is this:
Only YOU can define what constitutes a complete set.
My opinions are mine.
My goals are mine.
The whole point of collecting by series is to satisfy YOUR goal, and no one else.

GOOD HUNTING!

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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm putting an unstruck copper planchet in my 1922 plain hole. Who's to say it's not a 1922? It sure is plain.

I used to think the 1956 FEC was part of the set, but it seems that it's really better classified as a pattern. That's the impression I've gotten as I read about it, anyhow. There's no hole in the Dansco so it doesn't exist!

I think the micro S is not necessary for a complete set of Mercury dimes. There are other mintmark varieties in the series, the micro S only has its privileged place because it's been known about for so long. It's not like it's going to be the stopper in any set anyhow. Although since I already have a few, maybe I don't follow my own advice.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think for each of us, we have our own definitions, which is the best part of this hobby.

For some - As you said; "an example of every date and mint which entered circulation as a working coin."
For many - Fill all holes in the album.
For a Few- All commonly recognized Error/Varieties
For less - Never complete because there are always upgrades / new varieties / new errors.

To each their own, and for all, enjoy.

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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with you, varieties are more for the fun of things rather then a necessity. In order for my sets to be considered complete to me they have to have all the same quality whether it is VF or MS. Althoght a 1856 Flying eagle is a pattern that is one of the ones that I consider a must in order to complete the set not sure why but thats what I feel.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The 1922 "plain"*

*I have never forgiven Dansco for including a hole for this "variety" and nothing more.
Well said and agreed 100%.

I have mentioned before, I created a custom Indian Head cent, Buffalo nickel, and Mercury dime album. It contains all date and mint combinations. No varieties or errors.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VetStudent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that its all about your own definition of completeness.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paleoguy45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guess I'll have to toss my 1922 Strong Reverse, No "D" Lincoln in the trash. Not bloody likely... In my quest toward filling a Dansco 7099 though (Large Cent) they went absolutely bonkers with their variety requirements.....
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Never complete because there are always upgrades / new varieties / new errors.






THAT'S the fun of collecting!!
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh boy did they, Paleo!

Some albums are just ridiculous!

That's why I tend to stick to series with no varieties or use 2x2's

Makes it so much easier.


Or you can buy blank page and make the album how YOU want it.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cjtm92 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm huge into the Morgan dollars, but I won't touch the VAMs... at least not yet.

But even then, I will never be able to complete it. There will always be a proof Morgan, or a conditional rarity that I'm always going to have my eye on to upgrade the current one I have, presuming I have it.

That's what makes coin collecting so much fun. The endless journey. The endless excitement. That feeling that still comes up as if it were your first big purchase.

Best part is, hopefully it doesn't have to stop with us. Hopefully there is a kid in the family, or a neighbor, just someone to continue the treasure hunt when we can't anymore.

That's the beauty in coin collecting.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When is a set complete?

When you insert the last coin in the set. It could be anywhere from 1 coin (If all you want is one coin of the type) to a thousand and one coins (if you want every date and every variety known), a set is whatever the collector is trying to achieve with their collection. So its complete once they achieve that goal
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 Posted 03/06/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does my heart good to see so many folk respond to my original post
in the spirit in which it was intended:
COLLECT WHAT MAKES YOU FEEL GOOD!

Now, I retire to bed.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me a set is complete when I'm happy with what I see in my cabinet. I may add or upgrade a coin or two later, but of I am happy with what I have then I see no reason to continue. I only like to buy coins that have good eye appeal so I won't buy an ugly coin just to fill a spot. That leaves a few coins out of my reach but that's ok. If I feel like splurging down the line on them then I will, but it isn't gonna keep me up at night worrying about it.
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I have the Intercept Shield Flying Eagle/Indian head album so I'm lucky that they don't include the 1856 and 58/7 overdate. I have everything except the 1877 and I will get that one. I have everything in my Merc album except the 16-D and I'm looking for a good slabbed one to crack open.
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It is crazy that they put in all of those error and variety coins in the albums/holders/folders.

Like others have said, a set can be anything you want it to be, so collect what you enjoy.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Guess I'll have to toss my 1922 Strong Reverse, No "D" Lincoln in the trash.
Do not do that. I do have the hole to fill.
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