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Valued Member
United States
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after going through my late fathers coins I have decided to collect silver for now. I am brand new to this hobby and with very good advice from everyone here at CCF I already started to spin my wheels. so far this week, I went to an online auction and purchased one 1960 silver unopened U.S.proof set/One ngc slabbed gem uncirculated 2006 one troy oz. American Silver Eagle-first strike. now I have my eye on a 1878 7 over 8 clear double feather Morgan dollar. a ms-60 grade seems to be what I want in a price range for now because a ms-63 is a big jump in price. Whitman Red Book for ms-60 is $150.00/ms-63 is $325.00. my question is, should I go online and purchase it at auction and when should I back off if it goes over $150.00? or should I go directly to a coin dealer? I really need help thank you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hey Bud , I cant tell you to buy or where to cap your bid , but my suggestion is to research as much as you can , search past auctions and such .. just to get an idea of whats selling for what .. www.numismedia.com also has a good price guide , just click the collector prices on the left of the screen . and I really would try to search past auctions on ebay just so you know how deep the water could get or if your safe at your set number .. sry I'm not much help . good luck on your decision . \m/ phil \m/
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Valued Member
 United States
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you are a great help tatt2ed13, I really do apperciate it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
557 Posts |
GLad to help ,
Im my limited search I did see for your price range you mention you would be able to find a half decent "RAW" 1878 7 over 8 ... just be patient , but , not to patient and let the good one slip through your fingers ..
but please do your research and buy smart (if online ASK for clear photos if the listing sucks if they dont take time to get you proper photos dont waste your money) .. I like the going to a local shop thing just cause you can take your time and look it over .. but most times your paying TOP dollar at the shop .. but going and Looking at some will help so you know what to look for in certain grades and what not ...
again Best of luck , these morgans are a heavy addiction I'm currently sucked in myself (i posted my newest find on here if you look in the Vams section just look for my name for author lol)
Good luck :) \m/ phil \m/
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Pillar of the Community
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Ohh And here is another site for you to use for referencing .. Great for helping you grade coins .. this link will get you right to the Morgan dollar Section and you just look through and match your coin with that on the screen .. great tool to aid and get you more sure footed :) http://www.pcgs.com/Photograde/#/Morgan/Grades
Edited by tatt2ed13 03/18/2012 01:16 am
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Valued Member
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tatt2ed13, your refrence for the grade link is awsome! that does help me a lot. also, to what you mentioned early on about a coin dealer in person I may be paying for top dollar. I had a feeling that may be the case. I went in to a dealer today. I loved it in there but seem intimidated about prices. this place specialize in rare coins and precious metals. dont get me wrong, I will invest in coins but I'm a newbie.
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Valued Member
United States
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I just recently ordered my first few coins off of ebay.. and ordering coins on the internet is pretty risky if you dont know what you're doing.I really dont know enough to be doing it either.. I've never been to a coin dealer, so I cant say anything about that Coin shows are the way to go man, it lets you talk to tons of dealers, people with different interests and specialities. Lower prices than shop, higher prices than the internet. The best way to get experience is just see as many coins as you can, and that is where coin shows excell.Look at raw coins, old coins, new coins and SLABBED COINS. Go to a dealer with slabbed coins and cover up the grade and test yourself on how accurate you are at grading coins, it'll help alot.. and you'll get better over time oh.. and 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 -- -- --  Going to coin shows is really a good step .. you get comfortable with someone , sit down , talk over some coins , gives you priceless time to sit and soak in as much info as possible with hands on , visual's and all . . Really good idea while learning .. Just make sure , if you do pick a guys brain for a few mins/or how ever long .. Its a nice gesture to purchase a coin from the Dealer for his/hers Knowledge .  .. Just to keep good faith , what comes around goes around in this hobby  Best of luck , you made a good step joining CCF I might mention also  \m/ phil \m/
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Check to see if there are any coin shows in your area. Also, watch at flea markets, yard and garage sales for coins.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 , latebloomer! numismedia shows a retail of $113 for ms60 7/8. ms60 means the crappiest looking coin that has no wear. I wouldn't invest in that grade, nor the variety.
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Pillar of the Community
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do a lot of research and stick with 90% silver before you delve into numismatics
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There are many 7/8TF varieties, some worth more than normal and one worth stupid money. On the information provided, I'd be leery of jumping into that pool - this is an area where you'd do well acquiring knowledge of specific grading and variety. The coin you mention could be worth anything from $75 to $5000 or more, but at MS60 not a particularly attractive buy.
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Valued Member
 United States
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my eyes and ears are open to all the feedback. so far I do understand to do the research however I am getting the impression that I should step it up to a better grade than a ms-60 for this type of coin I am eyeing on? if this is the case what grade will put a smile on my face to make me proud of this coin?
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For me, MS63 is the point at which coins start looking nice-enough to be in the collection on visual merit. That $150 will buy almost any Morgan issue in MS63, if you shop judiciously. As a variety collector, though, interest for me starts at the point where the variety becomes a conditional rarity, be that MS or circulated. If that's the direction you wish to go, you'll need a broader base of data to work from than if you're just collecting Morgans for their looks without concern for variety. Either way, go become a member at Heritage Auctions - it's free - and access their huge database of past auction results. They have over 200,000 Morgan auction results archived alone. This will give you a good feel for both how TPG's grade coins, and what they're worth in real-world sales, which is the only acceptable measure of a coin's worth.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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SUPERDAVE , I got some use outa that info also .. *i never used Heritage before* Got a account set up and browsing through the past auctions , Seems I have a few I was unaware would sell for a decent premium (had I be willing to sell them haha) Great info , and really a good idea to help research pricing ... (i always searched the Bay and , honestly need more info then they provided me with as some stuff I need is tough to find on ebay) .. Thanks again and good luck LateBloomer ! keep us up to date on how your making out brother . \m/ phil \m/
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Valued Member
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alright, I now have an account with heritage. I will look at the history of the buying. thank you once again all of you.
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