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Pillar of the Community
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I wonder if PCGS actually labelled it as an overdate.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Its defintely a different 3 to the normal type,but not sure if its an overdate.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I also cannot see the 1933 / 32 overprint in the coins that have been put on display  . In particular - I cannot imagine how the lower part of the 2 could be hidden below the "clean" 3 in the examples  . I think there is simply too little "overlap" in the lower part of a "2" and a "3". This distinction must be visible in the coins  . On the other hand, I have no problem in seeing the 34 overprint to the 1933 threepence, as discussed in https://goccf.com/t/110611Squire |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I wonder how many more of these " over dates " come out of the woodwork with a 3.5k price tag.
If there is a difference between the standard 33 and the "over date " it is minute and is probably just a minor die variation.
IF they exist then why isn't there any documentation from the mint on it ?
They would have had to re tool a 1932 die to produce this.
Funny how they are just showing up now after 75 years.
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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No compelling evidence that it's an overdate on that link Australian Coin posted. Looks like doubling or perhaps a re-touched die. On one image you can clearly see doubling (or perhaps re-touching) on the end of the bottom loop of the 3. There's no 2 under there IMHO.  |
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Formerly nancyc
Australia
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Does anyone have a copy of the CAB for March 2007?
There's supposed to be an article in it about this subject, I believe written by Ian McConnelly. I certainly know he is not infallible, in fact I often notice mistakes in his articles, but it would be good to read what he had to say about it.
life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
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There was talk on Stamp/Coin Forums in 2008/9 on the 33 half overdate that I read but for some reason they are not showing(except for link already posted) on Google.Interesting to see where it all leads long term because it is(IMO) a slightly different coin.
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Pillar of the Community
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I have the March 2007 CAB in front of me now. There's no compelling images or evidence. And the issue of the doubling on the bottom loop of the 3 is completely ignored. Seems like someone decided it was a 3 over 2 (who supplied the information to Ian for the article) while others believe it's a 3 over 3 or re-touched die.
By the way the March 2007 article is a DIRECT re-print of an article published in CAB in July 2003.
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03/25/2012 03:21 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Further to this I can find only one other reference to a supposed 1933/2 overdate half penny overdate in the published ACR's and CAB's since 1964. This was in the January 1965 edition where the editor John Dean says:
"one coin that can lay claim to being an overdate - although this is another we are not totally convinced about - is a 1933 halfpenny which may be over a 1932 date."...."The only evidence is at the beginning of the last '3'; there is no suggestion of the downstroke of a '2' under the '3'".
Hardly compelling evidence of the "overdate" actually being such.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 I would like the idea of a 1933/32 halfpenny, but I just don't see it in the photos. Compared to the quite obvious 1933/32 penny, where an overlay of a 2 predicts what is protruding from the 3.  |
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Australia
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Even a normal 1933 ½d shows a distinct difference between the two 3's where the 2nd 3 is somewhat squared off at the start of its top curl whereas the 1st 3 is rounded.  Just to emphasise this, here are closer-ups of the 2nd 3 from three different ½d's.    Now the following are the corresponding views from the supposed 1933/32 overdate ½d.   Clearly, something different is happening at the start of the top curl of this 2nd 3 but whether this is the result of an overdate on a 1932 die or an attempt to re-cut a 1933 die I am not able to determine. |
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Formerly nancyc
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Very interesting!!  life is a mystery to be lived not a problem to be solved
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Pillar of the Community
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Clearly, something different is happening at the start of the top curl of this 2nd 3 but whether this is the result of an overdate on a 1932 die or an attempt to re-cut a 1933 die I am not able to determine. Thats how I see it,the final 3 on a small percentage of coins is defintely different for some reason but not convinced an overdate is one of them. Does anyone have an opinion of this 33 half?,it seems different to my other coins especially the centre of the 3.Sorry ,a bit small will have another go at posting scan.   Edited by Basil
04/17/2012 01:52 am
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