Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

I'm Thinking About Starting My Own TPG Company

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 14 / Views: 1,721Next Topic  
Valued Member
ContraJame's Avatar
United States
292 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  1:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ContraJame to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would you trust a company named "Basement Slabbers". The acronym has a nice ring to it.

Joking aside, I think it would be interesting if someone took up grading true basement slabbed coins as a hobby. They could create a slab that encases the coin and the original basement slab similar to how NGC slabs the GSA holders.
Pillar of the Community
SteveCaruso's Avatar
United States
1796 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Would you trust a company named "Basement Slabbers". The acronym has a nice ring to it.


I've always wanted to start a TPG whose initials came out to "IMHO". :-)


Quote:
Joking aside, I think it would be interesting if someone took up grading true basement slabbed coins as a hobby. They could create a slab that encases the coin and the original basement slab similar to how NGC slabs the GSA holders.


Think of the iterative possibilities! Slabs for slabbed slabbed coins could be the next big thing who knows? :-)
Valued Member
magicalmke's Avatar
United States
123 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add magicalmke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't that what CAC is for?!?!?

All kidding aside it is kind of crazy that there's a market for someone to certify the certifier. But guilty as charged I do have a few CAC coins. The ones I like the best are a couple of F12 PCGS Barber halves which CAC certified. Makes me feel real warm and fuzzy to know they really are F12!
Valued Member
TonedMo87's Avatar
United States
132 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TonedMo87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe its time for CACC to come into play... Certify the certified certifier?

-Dan
Valued Member
United States
223 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add COMET to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think anyone would want to touch any Basement Slabbers. Most of them are problem coins or are severely over graded. But you can always but them cheap, crack them out and put them in empty slabs yourself.
Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how one could appreciate a coin through all that plastic.
Resubmit to a competitor and it comes back in third capsule on top of those two!

A new slogan ...?
"Buy the basement slabbers slab, not the coin in the basement slab."

or
"Buy the coin, not the holder, in the holder, in the holder.
Bedrock of the Community
sel_69l's Avatar
Australia
21786 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An F-12 coin in three layers of plastic?
Valued Member
ContraJame's Avatar
United States
292 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ContraJame to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Baha. I'd be sold on the novelty factor of a coin with the primary slab stating "MS70" and then the secondary slab stating something "Actually a MS62, nice try!" It'd be entertaining. I definitely wouldn't want any key date or overly valuable coins inside the double-slab.
Valued Member
BuffaloBonehead's Avatar
United States
333 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2012  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuffaloBonehead to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In all honesty, a slabbing service dedicated to one series, say Lincoln cents, could be of valuable service. Having coins in slabs is something a collector who is unsure of his grading abilities may like to have encapsulated but it is economically unsound to have most of the years slabbed. A cheaper service built on slabbing for a modest fee of $5 -$7 could be a viable alternative provided that the graders are accurate.

Of course, that doesn't mean that they will receive recognition as being anything more than a basement slabber.

Perhaps you could also encapsulate using decimals. This coin is MS 65.5.
Pillar of the Community
SteveCaruso's Avatar
United States
1796 Posts
 Posted 03/27/2012  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Meh decimals is probably what PCGS will do next after their adoption of the + designation.

The Sheldon Scale is already stretched too thin. :-)
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts
 Posted 03/27/2012  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Meh decimals is probably what PCGS will do next after their adoption of the + designation.

The Sheldon Scale is already stretched too thin. :-)

Should be a 100 scale anyway. And using decimals too so a more accurate grade could be specified. An example would be something like MS-94.8832AP for Approximately.
I have no slabs of any kind. If purcahsed in a slab, I take it out and put the coin in an Album.
Valued Member
DM1975's Avatar
United States
284 Posts
 Posted 03/27/2012  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DM1975 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe you can make festivly decorated slab slabs and get in on the ground floor of a new trend like all the new different "special" labels that are out there. Or make the rims of the slab slabs out of .999 fine copper or tin.
Pillar of the Community
nod2003's Avatar
United States
3294 Posts
 Posted 03/27/2012  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't each coin have 2 grades? One for the coin, and one for the internal slab? So a coin could be VG10 and the slab AU55 for a net MS65
Pillar of the Community
Russian Federation
5172 Posts
 Posted 03/27/2012  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that the Sheldon scale is stretched too thin - but on the other side! I mean, I personally have a 1923-S dollar that is an obvious AG-2.5*, but since there's no such thing as a 2.5 it has to be "graded" as Fair.

More on-topic: if I ever start my own " TPG company", it would use grades like "F-VF", "XF++", "AU-" and "G-ish", and very, very rarely grade a coin MS (while most of actual MSs get a standard "shiny as new" grade of AU++, right there with AU-58s). Also maybe a "VF details" (or F or VG or G, depending on the coin in question) grade for coins so darkly toned (as is common for copper) it's hard to see anything.

Oh, and as for the slabs: not only there's no slabbed coins in my own collection, I don't think I've ever seen any actual slabbed coins for sale - they seem to be hard to come by this side of the Arctic. I do, however, have a few holdered coins (i.e. in 2x2 holders), which are for me the equivalent of slabbed ones in that they can't be properly put in an album (and some of them even have their "grade" mentioned on the holder - which more often than nor is "UNC" aka AU++).




*) Probably closer to 2.7 actually. By the way, that's the only US silver dollar I own so far - never really had an opportunity to buy any other one for anywhere near melt and just couldn't bring myself to buy any common one for anything above $40.
Bedrock of the Community
Conder101's Avatar
United States
17884 Posts
 Posted 03/28/2012  09:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I don't know how one could appreciate a coin through all that plastic.

But don't you realize that appreciation of the coins is of secondary importance (if it matters at all)? What really matters is what is printed on the labels. It doesn't matter what the coin is like, what does the label say?



Quote:
Meh decimals is probably what PCGS will do next after their adoption of the + designation.

Probably, in house they already use all 101 single decimal point grades between 60 and 70 inclusively. So it is probably coming eventually.
  Previous TopicReplies: 14 / Views: 1,721Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums