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1869 2 Cent...cracked Die?

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I came across this 1869 2 Centpiece in the collection I am selling on consignment. This is one I am keeping for myself.

I presume the line running pretty much through the date is a die crack. But whats up with the extra stuff on the bottom of the 8 and 6?

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Repunched date for one thing...can you get a good, close-up macro shot of the date?
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The wife has a macro lens. I will get her take one tomorrow.
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https://goccf.com/t/114683

Last few days worth of messages on the same die stamped coin! You scored a real winner there!
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But whats up with the extra stuff on the bottom of the 8 and 6?

The die is chipping along the edge of the crack. This leaves a void which has been filled by metal from the planchet.
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west, I just read that thread. Thanks!:)

What the photo doesn't show is that tail of the nine is actually seperated from the rest of the number. I am going to try for better pics...
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Alright, so this is what I could manage.

Now, you can see the seperation on the nines tail where I arrowed it.

Also, those spots on the one. Doubling, more of the crack? The base really looks like doubling to me.

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Oh, and exactly what would the variety attribution be? I saw a couple mentioned in the other thread.
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Nice keeper! VG8 ?
WOW... 3 of these showup in past week!
What you pay?
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Penny, as I said, this is from a collection I am selling on consignment. I havent paid her yet, but once I figure a fair value, thats what she will get.

And yeah, high VG. The reverse is nicer IMO...

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Maybe even F12...
Value = min. $100 up to $200
see our other post, there is G6 price of $275,
But its WAY too high $$ Overpriced,
Should be under $100 for G6
You selling it or buying it ?
You have the best of 3 coins posted here!
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Oh believe me, this one is staying right here in my collection. I do have several other of the 2 cent pieces from her listed. None like this though.
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Where are other of the 2 cent pieces from her listed. Here ccf or ebay?
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On the bay. You can go to my stuff from my profile here
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I have not seen a tail of 9 on others ... Like your 1869,
Could your 9 tail just be a nick/dent/ding where it could have got hit there?
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Could your 9 tail just be a nick/dent/ding where it could have got hit there?


My thoughts too, this is from the same die as the other coins, so I think the broken 9 is a result of a hit at some time on the date, nothing more. Still a pretty valuable variety in the 2¢ series. This ine is worth easily $100+ so a great find.
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I just inventoried one identical to that one in our case, an it is written cracked die on flip. we got it priced at like 35 bucks, real nice coin I may end up buying myself, as I am taking a real like to the 3 cent nickels, and the large cents, and we got some real nice ones....

Ours is 1864 civil war era....
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