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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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This is an ebay auction of a die-struck fake. I have reported it 3 days ago, to no effect. Perhaps if a few people get behind this, it will make a difference?  Unfortunately, the Forgery Network, the site referencing this fake is currently down, but here is a photo comparing that reference to the ebay coin. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
10045 Posts |
"Report Item" on auction page. ebay ought to know that die-struck fakes don't look exactly the same.... 
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Pillar of the Community
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oh, okay ... however, in court I am going to have to call upon my expert witness ... ummm, and that's you ...
So basically, my report is gonna say
=> "I know a guy who says that this item is a fake" ... should I write that report?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Well...yeah, I did the research after all. Years ago, I would contact the bidders directly, but now it's all in ebay's hands--for better or worse.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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report sent ...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
Since I am completely without ancient coin knowledge I cannot say but the link in ebay listings is usually ineffective. For our convenience there is a link right here in CCF for reporting ebay listings and it can be found closer to the bottom of the main coin forum page. Titled:eBay Auction Violation ReportingHere's the link http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...lling+Coins+ |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Thanks, it can't hurt to try that too. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4212 Posts |
Complaints sometimes go unheeded, mainly because your complining to the same people who review fake Gucci bags.
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Valued Member
United States
294 Posts |
I'm no expert, but perhaps a photo of a genuine coin to compare may reinforce your complaint?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
But, every genuine ancient coin looks different. It's much easier to match details on a confirmed fake than prove any coin is genuine. Thanks for the comments...it's in ebay's court now. |
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 United States
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Report sent, hope it helps.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10284 Posts |
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I'm no expert, but perhaps a photo of a genuine coin to compare may reinforce your complaint? That would be ideal, but the report forms supplied by ebay do not allow any kind of html. Besides, they already informed me they have expert people investigate and determine whether coins are counterfeit or not.  a rare message I got after one of my reports to ebayDear TheNickelGuy,
Thanks for reporting this listing to us.
I reviewed this listing and confirmed that it violated our Selling
Currency policy. As a result, I removed the listing.
I would venture a guess that there are probably close to a million or
more currency listings on ebay at any time. I cannot imagine the man
power needed to be able to view every single currency listing at the
time it is listed to determine if the listing is fraudulent.
Besides our own internal efforts, we often rely on our members to report
violating listings.
Additionally, we work with two groups of coin
experts, the Coin Community Watch group  and the Coin Forgery ebay group.
When we are made aware of a potential counterfeit coin whether found
internally or reported to us we send the listing to them for review. If
they agree that the coin is a counterfeit, they notify us and we remove
it.
Please understand that we do not "allow" sellers to defraud buyers. We
remove all counterfeit coins or misleading listings when we are made
aware of them.
Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in
keeping ebay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.
Sincerely,
Judith
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New Member
United States
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I frequently see coins on ebay that are obvious fakes yet there are numerous people bidding on them. I really don't know what to do about this since you really can't contact the bidders or the winner of the coin. It is nice to have a site like this to ask the opinion of others but unfortunately this problem is part of our hobby and something we have to deal with. I haven't let it discourage me. I once won a bid on a denarius of Vitellius and later realized it was a fake. I told the seller this before I paid for it and he apoligized only to put it up for bid again. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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...they have expert people investigate and determine whether coins are counterfeit or not. I'm glad nothing falls through the cracks. Btw, this was just one random coin I bothered to look up on a hunch--no doubt there are a few others on ebay. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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We used to see other bidders names in the bidder list, people were contacting the under-bidders and selling outside ebay, but now they hide them with codes like T**g. ebay claimed they were protecting bidder identities and preventing outside sales and phishing. I used to point out things to bidders about listing circumstances such as reproductions, fake coins or stolen images. This is flawed however since you can still contact a bidder during an auction by researching feedback. This way you can see what they said, who they are, and what they bid on. So you can still contact anyone by doing an advanced search by bidder. It just takes more effort on figuring out who is who and what they want to buy. You can also make a case on shill bidding this way but you have to do some thinking. I don't think ebay wants to lose bids and final value fees so they make it more difficult to tip off the bidders and they have less intervention to worry about and less to answer to. |
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Posted 03/30/2012 4:00 pm
