17? Large Cent-Error ?: Grade Request

I'm not going to say it's a 1799 for sure but, I would say it has a very good chance on it being a 1799. It has a severely pitted reverse with verdigris.
If this was my coin, I would send it to ANACS. The last numeral looks correct for a 9.
My advice, send it in first, then an ebay price will be determined.

I did review the initial reverse photo already posted and determined that indeed it was incorrectly over-rotated clockwise a few degrees.

As opposed to taking another photo I simply rotated this photo digitally counterclockwise and inserted a black horizontal two headed arrow line to serve as the baseline.

This black line has a tangential blue/white arrow pointing out the area of the coin that is in contact with the horizontal baseline.

Are you suggesting that this coin now displays the faint characteristics of a die crack extending from the 90 degrees point to the 180 degrees point?

If this is the case, would it still be worth the money to have it graded?

Thanks,
mdpmedia

OK that is what I needed to see.

1798 S-186


Believe it or not this IS the same reverse as that used on 1799/8 S-188. But it was used on the 1799 first before the reverse die cracked. Oddly no 1799 is known with the crack, but no S-186 is known without it.

And no it is not worth getting graded.

I am relatively new to this area of die cracks and errors: an extremely interesting subtopic of general coin collecting...

Where can someone new like me find an overall summary (with verbiage and applicable illustrative photos) of the type of drilling down details (S-186, 188 etc.) used in this case, for example, to apply to all other US coins?

I also would like to know this answer for foreign (non-US) coins.

This topic has been a fantastic learning experience for me.

These types of discovery processes are somewhat parallel in theory to looking for buried treasure but without encountering any dirt.

The real similarity between the two is found in the mounting suspense that one feels while waiting to finally discover what has actually been identified.

As always I appreciate the input from everyone in deciphering this coin's identity.

mdpmedia

wert, those dates are impossible since the US Mint did not strike its first coins until 1793 and the Draped Bust design was not used until 1796. Conder correctly identified the date of 1798 based upon the Sheldon diagnostics.



The Sheldon nomenclature only applies to early date Large Cents, other denominations will have their own reference book.
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