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$20 American Bank Note Company Specimen Bill

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 Posted 04/07/2012  12:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Shafic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi guys,

Can't seem to find this one anywhere. Anyone have any idea as towards the value?



$20-American-Bank-Note-Company-Specimen-Bill

$20-American-Bank-Note-Company-Specimen-Bill
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04/07/2012 12:36 pm
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 Posted 04/07/2012  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lambda to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1929 ABNc $20 specimen note.... value around $300-$500.

I believe that the intent of this note was to wiggle into a contract with the Treasury to replace National Bank Notes, but the Treasury went with the 1929 Federal Reserve Bank Notes instead, (of which it already owned the plates which were the same plates used for the 1929 Nationals) when the nearly simultaneous necessity arose to replace the gold certificates then in circulation.
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 Posted 04/07/2012  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shafic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting. Thank you for that =)
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 Posted 04/07/2012  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These are advertising pieces and the value is about what Lambda stated. The connection to 1929 FRBN does not exist, however.

1929 FRBNs were not introduced to replace gold certificates. They were introduced to provide an elastic currency in light of the 1933 Bank Holiday and the hoarding of paper money brought on by bank closings. The large size FRN of 1914-15 were introduced for the same reason. Once the banking situation stabilized, FRBN were withdrawn. Most of the FRBN in collections today were from the release of leftover stock of notes in 1943 due to the shortage of resources fro producing new paper money brought on by the war.
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 Posted 04/07/2012  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lambda to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Advertising pieces".... interesting... advertising for other countries?

The sole purpose of the 1929 FRBN however was indeed to replace Gold Certificates. The banking holiday mentioned (actually a moratorium on banks selling, transferring, or paying out gold by any means) effectively stopped a run on banks nationwide by citizens who were worried about the economy and the possibility of bank failure...... If a person wanted to withdraw all of their banking assets, gold was the tender of choice..... Roosevelt had this scheme and all its detail worked out prior to his inauguration, and in March 1933, both the banking moratorium and the series 1929 FRBNs came on the scene.... These notes replaced the gold certificates and many of the FRNs (which at the time enjoyed a 40% gold cover)....The banking moratorium was just a guise for the real intent of the new Roosevelt administration.... The plan was to eliminate National Banks, grow the government's role in banking, inflate the dollar by pumping more currency (without being backed by gold) into the economy, and to accept a huge mandated influx in gold from banks and private citizens into the Treasury simultaneously..... It worked.... The government bought gold for just over $20/oz, and within a year raised the price of gold to $35/oz..... nearly a 70% increase in the Treasury's net worth.

1929 FRBNs were printed in March 1933, and are the only form of actual "emergency" money printed by the Federal government. Many of these notes were not issued until 1942-43.

The 1918 FRBNs were intended to replace the National Bank Notes, but fluctuations in silver prices caused them to be used to replace Silver Certificates instead, which were removed from circulation in partial reaction to the Pitman Act.... I realize that this has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the OP's topic, so I'll leave it at that.... Maybe someday we can get into a discussion of The Federal Reserve Act for one thing.
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 Posted 04/07/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, advertising for other countries. ABNC printed paper money for other countries throughout most of its existence.

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 Posted 04/07/2012  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lambda to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I knew that they printed for other countries, but I did not know that they had to be competitive in that way.... only makes sense though I guess.... Thanks for that.
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 Posted 04/08/2012  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the security printers created similar sample items. You can find them for Thomas De La Rue, Bradbury, etc. They are still made today.

Here is a Bradbury piece on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bradbury-Wi...em20be8cedad
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 Posted 04/08/2012  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lambda to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never been interested in any notes that said "SPECIMEN" on them, so I never paid any attention to them, but at the same time, I like learning new things lettow, and I sincerely appreciate the lesson here.... This is a whole new chapter in note collecting that I was previously oblivious to.... Thanks again....


(I also have even less appreciation for specimen notes now..)
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 Posted 04/09/2012  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shafic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can specimen notes be graded? And if so, would it be recommended? Since they weren't circulated anyway.
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 Posted 04/11/2012  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wquinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting note.

Yes, any note can be graded. Even in CU, there are different grades. The higher the number, the more valuable it is.
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