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Poll Question
One of the things I often hear Numismatists say is "Why can't the US Mint make a decent Liberty design ?". Or "Aren't there any qualified artists around today who can design a coin like Gobrecht, Longacre, St Gaudens, Weinman, etc. ?". One of the things I want to do this year is some fantasy patterns in the style of the US Mint 19th and early 20th century patterns (only better, hopefully). So, for example, if I was transported back to 1870 and given the task of designing a Seated Liberty pattern, what would I come up with ? Well, I did just that (except for the physically going back in time part  ). As was often the case with patterns, I came up with several variations of the same basic design. I discovered that a Seated Liberty design is probably the most difficult type - more difficult than a standing or walking Liberty, and more difficult than a Liberty bust profile. I have not yet decided in what final form I will mint these, but I will do at least one of the designs as a 1-oz silver "round". Without any further fanfare, here they are: Original obverse, plain sun, #08 :  Original, striped sun, #09 :  With fasces & Earth, no gear, #992 :  With gear & torch, with stars, #993 :  With gear & torch, no stars, #993_ns :  Sunrise, plain rays, #994 :  Sunrise, starburst rays, #995 :  Sunrise, starburst rays inverted, #996 :  Eagle reverse, no circle, #02 :  Eagle reverse, with circle, #03 : Results
| Original obverse, plain sun, #08 |
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17% |
5 Votes |
| Original, striped sun, #09 |
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7% |
2 Votes |
| With fasces & Earth, no gear, #992 |
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7% |
2 Votes |
| With gear & torch, with stars, #993 |
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13% |
4 Votes |
| With gear & torch, no stars, #993_ns |
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3% |
1 Votes |
| Sunrise, plain rays, #994 |
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23% |
7 Votes |
| Sunrise, starburst rays, #995 |
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17% |
5 Votes |
| Sunrise, starburst rays inverted, #996 |
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13% |
4 Votes |
Poll Status:
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Total Votes: 30 Counted
Last Vote:
02/20/2007 4:43 pm
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DC, I have said this many times how much I enjoy your designs, however on these the one thing if I might offer a opinion on I think the design would look better on Miss Liberty if she did not have a belly button at least that is the way it seems to me.
Bruce.
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What is that, neo-classical Egyptian?
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>>>What is that, neo-classical Egyptian?
Yes, exactly. Actually, I may put a 2007 date on it, since I couldn't bring myself to put 1870s-style clothing on her.
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>>>I have said this many times how much I enjoy your designs, however on these the one thing if I might offer a opinion on I think the design would look better on Miss Liberty if she did not have a belly button at least that is the way it seems to me. <<< Yes, it is a bit risque. It just came out that way. Maybe I'll change it. Although it is no "worse" than a type-1 1917 Standing Liberty quarter in that respect.
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Daniel: I was torn between #08 and #996 also. I however, think that the Eagle isn't "fluffy" enough. What I mean by that is that he needs to be fuller in the belly and the wings aren't full enough. Otherwise, I loved all of your designs. #993 is quite nice also.
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171 Posts |
>>>Daniel: I was torn between #08 and #996 also. I however, think that the Eagle isn't "fluffy" enough. What I mean by that is that he needs to be fuller in the belly and the wings aren't full enough. Otherwise, I loved all of your designs. #993 is quite nice also. <<< Thanks, yes I struggled with that issue a bit. When I look at 19th century US coins, the eagles always seem to me to have big heads and fat bodies with wings that are way too short in proportion. That is due mostly to the limited space and shape on a coin. In reality, an Eagle's wingspan is many multiples of the length of the Eagle's body. So what I did (with limited success) was to keep it slender to give it the appearance of longer wings
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You knew this was coming: 
Edited by edix 02/06/2007 08:18 am
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United States
751 Posts |
Daniel, I'm very impressed by your skill and very fond of your designs--especially the ones with the wheat.
I must say, though, that I am not enamored of Lady Liberty. I would remove the bun and opt for flowing hair instead. I don't mind the belly, but I don't like her top--something loose and "drapey" would be preferable. And I agree that the legs, ankles, and feet are reminiscent of Egyptian art--and I think they are the weak point of your design.
Hope you accept my criticism in the constructive and admiring manner it was intended.
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dcarr, I picked 995. Miss Liberty is looking pretty good, maybe a little too much skin though. I'm not seeing Egyptian, more like Barbara Eden. I can appreciate your challenge, depicting a design that's 135 years old using a modern approach. Maybe a robe? If you opt for keeping the skin, maybe you want to muscle her up a bit. I'm with texasmick on the hair, lose the bun and let it flow behind her left shoulder.
This may seem like a silly question, are you actually creating these pieces or is this a software effort? Just curious.
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171 Posts |
>>>You knew this was coming: <<<
I did ! I had the same thought, in fact, when designing it. Hard to forget the potty humor once you've seen it.
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171 Posts |
>>>dcarr, I picked 995. Miss Liberty is looking pretty good, maybe a little too much skin though. I'm not seeing Egyptian, more like Barbara Eden.<<<
I dream of Jeanie !
>>> This may seem like a silly question, are you actually creating these pieces or is this a software effort? Just curious. <<<
I haven't decided on the final form(s) yet, but I will mint it in some manner, as a silver round.
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I really like design #995. Modern yet still with a classical touch. I think the only change I would suggest would be to add a full-length gown. Don't take offense Daniel, but those Wilma Flinstone legs just have to go! 
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I think you are right about the hair. I'm going to change it. Maybe a few other slight modifications as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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#996 all the way I like them all , and also I like the wheat stalks, not the fascias But the Second reverse (#03)is The best as well. I have to agree a long Flowing Dress would be more appealing , also more time consuming as well as creating a more intricate die I would assume
Edited by scoutjim99 02/06/2007 3:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hi Daniel
I like the obverse 995
Reverse 03
I have no problem with the belly button or the legs !!
Thank you for allowing us the opportunity to view the designs.
Metalman
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