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Major Flaws (2004 Proof Set) Must See

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 Posted 04/16/2012  10:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nick01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Major-Flaws-2004-Proof-Set-Must-See

I wouldn't have a clue ? (That line going through the 20c coin is actually Iridescent (Holographic). Notice how 1/4 of the coin isn't in a mirror finish).

Major-Flaws-2004-Proof-Set-Must-See

The Holographic 1 Dollar.

Anybody else has flaws such as this in their 2004 coin sets? Just wondering if anyone here has seen any flaws such as this one.
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 Posted 04/17/2012  01:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, welcome to the forum.

Second, that looks like environmental damage to the coins caused by poor mint packaging and or improper storage of the set. The plastic is probably cracked somewhere and let in some moisture or air.
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I just checked through the packaging thoroughly, and there is absolutely NO damage to the plastic whatsoever. :(

I don't know what it is :( .. I got this set from someone else and it came with original box and certificate. The case is in perfect shape which is what baffles me a little haha.
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 Posted 04/17/2012  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrcruise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm amazed RAM quality control did not pick this up

The oins definately do not look like they should - heven't seen om 2004 series

Interesting specimens
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Thanks mrcruise. Yeah, I received the set in the male, and the owner said how the set was in mint condition, etc.
Opened the envelope the set came in.. Everything seemed good... And then I opened the Proof Set box and was like "Whoa! What happened there?!" hahaha.. It is a wonder RAM didn't pick this up, because there are multiple MAJOR flaws :P

Such as the 5c piece aswell.. Similar to the 20c. But other than the mistakes... It's all in mint condition practically haha
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 Posted 04/17/2012  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MobOfRoos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both photos look consistent with toning to me.
The iridescent effect you describe is what is commonly known as "rainbow toning"
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Yeah, the iridescent 'rainbow toning' looks absolutely stunning. The 1 dollar coin looks pretty awesome in this type of colour. Love it!

But it's strange how the 20c and the 5c pieces both have an iridescent line going through them which separates the parts where the 'proof' mirror finish goes all funny :P
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There was a discussion about this on the Oztion ( now Quicksale ) boards several years ago,there were 4 or 5 collectors with this identical thing on their 2004 sets.
I seem to remember the probable cause was a spot of oil some how got on to the centre of the coin,i think one guy washed his coin in soapy warm water,the oil did wash off apparently but so did the frosting on the rest of the coin.
I'd say the toning on the other coins is also cause by excess oil left on the coins.
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@appleangel07
I'll have to look up this discussion. Might make things less confusing for me haha.
It does seem to appear that way about the oil, etc... Not sure if I should break the set open though :P. Shame it had to happen to my set though :( The 2004 proof set would've looked very attractive.
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Nick,

I'm not sure if I'm happy or sad. I haven't looked at my 2004 Proof set for years. Last time I looked it was lovely pristine coins with my favourite coin...that sparkling holographic coin.

But now I see what you mean. COINcidence? I am devestated that the $1 has gone the way it has, the other coins look great with a little moonlike streak across them...but that poor dollar coin.

Here's my lot to see the same, but different:

Major-Flaws-2004-Proof-Set-Must-See

Major-Flaws-2004-Proof-Set-Must-See

Am I happy or sad? I don't know...I think I'm sad only because of the $1 coin.
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Actually the 20 cent looks like it is frosted one side of the rainbow & normal on the other.
Does anyone know when the frosting of the $1 is done ? if the frosting process happens last ( after all the coins are in the case ready to be sealed ) & if the frosting machine was having issues ( not working properly )it may have sprayed on to the other coins,maybe ? Maybe I'm just clutching at straws here to LOL.
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goatiman23's set basically looks like mine. I looked at that pic and was like "Hang on.. I didn't post that pic :O"
Almost identical basically :P

And yeah, it's definitely a shame about the 1 dollar :( ... That's why I bought the set lol... For the 1 dollar :P
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I might post a picture of my set like the way goatieman has done his.. Just for a comparison.

So, the coins in the 2004 actually 'end' up like that over time? :O ... Or is it a RAM error?
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Major-Flaws-2004-Proof-Set-Must-See

Looks identical to his set
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What I find fascinating, is the fact that the "damage" to the other coins appears radially around the $1, which suggests a likely chemical reagent, decomposition or vaporised leachate, firstly affecting and then emanating from the holographic dollar coin.

Are the holographic 2004's ticking timebombs, and what about pad printed coins?
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I should have slabbed the silly thing.
Nick, same as you the holographic coin was just too pretty...not any more.
I might have to buy the coin on it's own on ebay.
We might have to contact the mint.
Appleangel, if you can dig up the old forum post about this "A plague o' both your coin sets!" I'd really appreciate it. Cheers.
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