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You Vs NGC - 1858 Half Dollar

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 Posted 04/21/2012  10:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Sorry about the small photos. I don't have it in hand yet.

What grade do you think it got?



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 Posted 04/21/2012  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't make up my mind if this coin is MS60 or EF58. Can't quite detect if there is any wear or not on Lady Libery's right boob. A 'star' coin for any collection!
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 Posted 04/21/2012  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-62... Seems to be a bit of chatter in the fields, but if it's the holder, then it would easily be a MS-63... Beautiful
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 Posted 04/22/2012  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Seems to be a bit of chatter in the fields


From what I know of the coin, its safe to assume the chatter is in the fields. I'll give this one just a little longer and then post the picture with the grade.
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 Posted 04/22/2012  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grading wise this is going to be an interesting exercise.

You already know the NGC grade. Obviously, you are going to get a range of opinions here, and perhaps an average opinion can be drawn from that, then compared to what NGC says. The difference between the average of our opinions and the NGC grade should give us all an idea if our opinions need adjusting, relative to NGC.

That does not necessarily mean NCG is right, but their opinions are respected by collectors, or they wouldn't be used.
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 Posted 04/22/2012  01:08 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell from the small images. It could be AU+ or it could be low MS too.

If I had to take one guess: AU58.
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 Posted 04/22/2012  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like others have said, its hard to tell from the pics but I don't see any wear so I would estimate this one is low MS. Very nice coin!
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 Posted 04/22/2012  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope everyone will forgive me for throwing you a bit of a curveball.

This is one of the coins brought up from the wreck of the SS Republic, and NGC sent them back pretty much ungraded (although at the time I bought it, I thought the 50c meant a grade of 50 but cleaned). I'm a little retarded at times...

Anyway, this one looked better than most others I've run across. I'm expecting it in on Monday and will take some better photos to get your opinions on where it should really be.

It sure is a pretty coin considering the fact that it spent several lifetimes laying on the ocean floor...although my wife wasn't amused when I mentioned that sending it on a cruise with her would greatly enhance its value if the boat sank.

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 Posted 04/22/2012  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still can't make up my mind about wear on the good dear Lady Liberty's right boob.........
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Still can't make up my mind about wear on the good dear Lady Liberty's right boob.........xxx


There's a little wear there, but a good photo will tell more.

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Ta. or sukria. (thankyou in Urdu), for the pic.
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It sure is a pretty coin considering the fact that it spent several lifetimes laying on the ocean floor...although my wife wasn't amused when I mentioned that sending it on a cruise with her would greatly enhance its value if the boat sank.


And it would probably be in better condition than all the other coins that sink in the holder after a few years underwater before salvage!
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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a better photo of the obverse. Any opinions on where it should be graded would be welcome.



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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...and here's the reverse. For some reason I couldn't get them both in the same post.



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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did it go through Numismatic Conservation Services first to decon it? Not sure that I like the haze/cloudiness on the reverse legends especially on HALF.

No value assigned because of the NO GRADE ASSIGNED?

I would go out on a plank and say AU58 (environmental damage details)

I would like to obtain a meaningful pedigree coin, yours is a beauty!
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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Engineer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply oih82w8. The haze/cloudiness on the reverse is most likely due to galvanic corrosion. In hand those areas look frosted, but I'll have to work on my lighting setup to make it show the same way on the computer.
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