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I'm looking at some small changes to exposure settings, lighting and post-processing to improve on showing surface details. It's amazing how much even small changes in these things affects the final image. My goal was to eliminate blown-out areas and improve on shadow detail but to not completely destroy the overall presentation with a low-contrast image. Let me know your opinions.

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Both great images! So detailed that you can even see the die polish marks on the cent.

The first image definitely has more shadowing than the second. It's hard to decide which I like best. The first one allows you to see the contour of the portrait and appears more sharp, but the second image is nice and bright.

I think I like the first image.
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 Posted 04/24/2012  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the first image better.
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 Posted 04/24/2012  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gary1218 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both are certainly nice pics. But I do think I like the little less shine of the second pic.
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I like the first the most, but both of them are great. Wish I could get photos like that!
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Novice opinion:

The second image shows more detail and less blowout. Look at the jack running from the shoulder up to the collar. You can see die flow lines in the second image but they're only hinted at in the first. It's like the first one was really close to capturing the detail but couldn't grab it due to the exposure?

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#2 defintely #2!
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Every day, your photos are better....
For me, the second is better.
You can see very well Pte Lincoln's hair.
What kind of post-processing are you doing?
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I prefer the second.
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The second image is clearly superior from a technical standpoint, but I can't help preferring the first from an aesthetic standpoint.
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They're both phenomenal pics and if I had to choose it would be the second.
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Every day, your photos are better....For me, the second is better. You can see very well Pte Lincoln's hair. What kind of post-processing are you doing?
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Thanks J! I always do a small amount of sharpening ("1" in ViewNX2) after resizing to compensate for the sloppiness of the algorithm. I also added a tiny bit of contrast to push the darkest shadows to black, but no other PP


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The second image is clearly superior from a technical standpoint, but I can't help preferring the first from an aesthetic standpoint.


Well said. My goal in changing the lighting was to improve on my ultimate goal of being able to take a single image of a Lincoln Cent that will show all the details required for variety identification. Secondary goal is to have an aesthetically pleasing image. I don't think the 2nd image is ugly but the lower contrast is less attractive than the 1st image.

I often look at Mark Goodman's pics, which are almost all lower contrast than I've been posting and have few if any hotspots, and wonder how he achieves this result. The 2nd image is more similar to this than I've produced before, so I'm thinking I may have a handle on it. I'm worried that he does a lot more postprocessing than I do, and I'm loathe to do a lot since I prefer to get the image "right" from the start.

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 Posted 04/25/2012  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The last time I read Mark describing his technique, he was using (usually) a Nikon setup with a single A19 60w incandescent, away and at a greater angle than we try to employ (maybe 30 off vertical).

I'd already graduated to my twin (sometimes triple) MR16 halogens at this point, and I was amazed that he was able to achieve such even lighting with a single bulb. I've always been meaning to revisit a setup similar to what he described, but never got around to it.

You want to see another guy that has it totally figured out, go check http://bluccphotos.com/ .
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Yes not only does he have it figured out, but he's also shooting through a slab which is more difficult than shooting raw. And then to shoot proofs as well as extracting those types of colors without axial lighting, etc...he's a true pro.
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