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 Posted 02/09/2007  6:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How do I know if the coin tone is artificial or not? Any tips because I dont even know how do artificial toning is done.
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 Posted 02/09/2007  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a toughie... My advice would be for you to google "Artificial Toning" or "Coin Toning". Coins which look unnatural or smell funny (really, it's sulphur) are sure signs that a coin has been artificially toned.

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 Posted 02/09/2007  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Start learning here:

http://www.tonedcoins.org/

Our own hadleydog is a founding member there, and will likely be wandering into this thread soon for a brief rundown.
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 Posted 02/10/2007  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EgCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks a lot. This site is very informative but the coins I mean dont have these colors. I mean they just have more dark oxides (like old cupper)but no colors (pink..etc. Is there a way to tone a coine by heating it or even placing it for a long time near a fireplace or an oven, because these appear like that?
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 Posted 02/10/2007  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Toning is a continuous process - a coin does not just reach a certain color point and cease changing, unless you remove it from the environment in which it toned. With silver, that is normally an environment that contains sulphur - yellow envelopes, certain albums, some wooden containers made with certain glue compounds are some of the "natural" causes of toning. "Unnatural" toning also involves the introduction of sulphur into the coin's environment, and sometimes heat is used to accelerate the process.

There are other ways to artificially tone a coin; I'm not going to discuss them here.

As toning progresses, it works through a series of colors - that's why you see "bullseye" toning on a coin. Usually having been in an album, such a coin starts toning at the rim and it proceeds inwards, the color pf a particular area changing through a spectrum as the process advances. The inevitable result of the toning process with silver will be a black coin, if the process is allowed to continue. Even in a "natural" environment, the coin will eventually become black after having gone through all the colors associated with the process.
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 Posted 02/10/2007  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this an example of an AT coin?
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Hi eg_collector, take a look in the educational section http://www.tonedcoins.org/forums/vi...um.php?id=15
Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, we are at a horse show this weekend and the days just don't have enough hours in them.
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Thanks hadleydog
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Actually it is a little fun attempting to tone a coin. There are numerous methods to do it and some are considered natural. For example take any coin and put it on a window ledge in your kitchen. Over a period of time the continuous changes in temperature, humidity, gases, lighting will cause most coins to tone. And the interesting thing is that they will tone differently in different homes pending on how much and the type of cooking. Many coins toned in this slow method can not be detected since the time interval it takes is almost natural. I've been experimenting on non expensive coins for many years and it is amazing how many I've had graded as a normally toned coin. Try some with normally inexpensive coins and see what happens. Hint. Try household items first such as dish soap.
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 Posted 02/12/2007  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gusp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Heard of this? Get an old cardboard slider album with the plastic slides. Get some sulphur and wet it into a solution. Coat the inside circular edges of the slider album cardboard with the sulfphur and let it dry. Dust away any lose sulphur so that it does not drop onto the surface of the inserted coin. Put the coin and plastic sliders back in and wait about 10-20 years.
This was a method used by a good many long time pros 40-50 years ago. They were careful of the coins surfaces when sliding the plastic slides in. If the plastic rubs the coins surface you get sliders.. Hence the term.
This created some of the most beautiful concentrically toned coins I ever saw. These were long time collectors with rare coins! I guess they liked toned coins. Imagine. Gusp
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I don't suppose there is a way to remove natural toning is there? I have a few silver halfs that turned and they are pretty ugly. I haven't tried to remove the toning but it would be nice if I could without harming the coin. Any sugesstions?

Margaret

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