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Anyone Familiar With Sterling Flatware & Hallmarks?

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 Posted 05/07/2012  03:39 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add unfamiliar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Picked up a sterling set for a great price at auction earlier, but I'm clueless about flatware.

Could someone give me an idea about the age, history, etc of the set?

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It is pretty safe to say knives blades are not silver of course but stainless steel rather, an often the inside handle is filled with other metals or even clay in some older examples, so say 10 penny weight on big knives an 5 on butters is a pretty safe estimate....

Just because it says sterling does not mean it is solid. You often wanna look for a .925 stamp for example, an some European examples I think can be like .800....

The lion hallmark is probably a good thing, an I also didn't notice any discoloration or tarnishing style toning, which is a dead sign for Rodger's brothers plated silver, lol. Even though real examples can do the same thing, like an old solid sterling tea pot a regular always boasts of finding for next to nothing at a garage sell, in which he claims turns different colors throughout the year on his mantel....

I can call out a large serving tray or bowl as plated seeing it being carried across a parking lot from about 25 yards before the person even enters the store....
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Interesting little piece of sterling Hallmark information I figure may be helpful to you an others perhaps....

http://www.onlinesterling.com/helpf...allmarks.htm
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That looks to me like the handle of an item from a carving set. Weight on those varies but with the large guard between the handle & the utensil it could be an ounce or more. Here's a link to a good sight for sterling hallmark identification:

http://www.925-1000.com/
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Hawk, I always thought sterling was .925 and nothing less, or more, would have that mark. Plus, I think it's probably solid or the maker would have had to specify. I hope, anyway. The icon looks like a knight, if you can't visually match it. Also try defender, prince, king, sword, shield, empire, armor, standard, coat of arms, etc. as keywords. Good luck.
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These were made by Towle Silver out of Massachusetts. The company started in 1882 and they are sill in business.
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it could be an ounce or more



I think Hawk is closer 1/4 ozt or so..


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I always thought sterling was .925


It is...Hawk was referring to .800 Coin silver. Which was also used to make flatware.


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I think it's probably solid


Probably not....more likely a thin layer of sterling over a Bakelite like plastic.
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a thin layer of sterling over a Bakelite like plastic.


I was mixing it up with coinage. I guess that wouldn't fall under the category of silver plated since there is virtually no silver in silver plating. So there is a lot less actual silver in silverware than I imaged. Thanks. I'm completely in the dark on the subject.
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10 penny weight on big knives an 5 on butters is a pretty safe estimate



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I think Hawk is closer 1/4 ozt or so..


SilverHawk74's estimate is based on DWT, or penny weight(20 penny weight to the troy oz) & matches what I have experienced. Roughly 1/2 ozt for a standard dinner knife & roughly 1/4 ozt for a butter knife.

I believe the item pictured is part of a carving set. If so the piece is larger than a standard dinner knife. It also has a flange/guard to keep the user from cutting themselves during use. I have seen 2 different sizes of these sets. The larger scrap out at 1 ozt or more. The smaller scrap out at 3/4 ozt or more.
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Great call 007, did not even think about that flange guard, an being a larger carving knife....
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